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Date:      Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:17:01 +0300
From:      Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: waiting on sbwait 
Message-ID:  <20040625061757.9D05A43D5A@mx1.FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040624232902.26400C-100000@fledge.watson.org> 

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> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Danny Braniss wrote:
> 
> > sometimes we get 
> > load: 0.04  cmd: dmesg 13453 [nfsrcvlk] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 148k
> > 
> > and looking through the code, there might be some connection between
> > sbwait and nfsrcvlk, but i doubt that it's sockets that im running out
> > off, neither mbufs, since: 
> > 
> > foundation> netstat -m
> > 326/1216/26624 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
> >         326 mbufs allocated to data
> > 321/428/6656 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
> > 1160 Kbytes allocated to network (5% of mb_map in use)
> > 0 requests for memory denied
> > 0 requests for memory delayed
> > 0 calls to protocol drain routines
> > 
> > also, the process enters sbwait either in sosend or soreceive, make me
> > believe that it's some resource, rather than data, that is missing. 
> > 
> > the fact that this 'unresponsivness' happens sometimes is making this
> > rather challenging, but try to tell this to the users :-) 
> 
> sbwait() occurs when a thread is blocked in a socket waiting for space in
> the socket to send, or for data in the socket on a receive.  This can
> happen either because a process is directly performing socket I/O -- for
> example, sending or receiving on a TCP or UDP socket -- or, it can happen
> when a process is using a facility that performs socket I/O in its kernel
> thread.  For example, the NFS client.  So the sbwait state could be a
> result of filled buffers of NFS.  If I had to guess, it might well be NFS.
> However, there are actually ways to tell :-).
> 
> The easiest is to compile your kernel with DDB, and when a process hangs
> with those symptoms, break into the debugger and do a trace on its pid. 
> You'll get back a stack trace.  If it's using a send/recv system call that
> terminates in the socket code without hitting VFS/NFS, it's blocked on
> network I/O, perhaps because it's sending or receiving a lot of data and
> hasn't finished.  If you see it pass through NFS-related functions, then
> it's waiting for NFS network I/O, which could reflect a busy NFS server,
> network segment, packet loss, etc.

it's definetly NFS related, i/you can cause this to happen at will,
ie: ls /net/host where host is down. the /net is a amd trigger which will
try and mount via nfs all of host's exports.

thanks,
	danny




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