From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 17 10:39:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2F1106564A for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E318FC15 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so8796fgg.35 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:39:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=jdh3415tw2rZD68Tv30jheDGYFK2k9A/iW7Vi53mLDY=; b=iQuD3uSH64AGWdSemLQdSCsVO2zNpFucp+LOi/5+Ed8XNKi5mZME1LxFlzEjgT770HwkeaQaibwD9/Ed4+7D1lGGaKuNJb3Ozz9dDCfV0jEmIcqvOckk6KPwDc6TqSwk2Vc6GrhYlUey6m5lO2PxXMGGC84VfIbeV5Qma7s1Rf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=sNzoGNkFTiOHXO/oExe+lopUFSxYDnbKNwqodkiOgn8iGhPLObQlqjYMc+RauIqlnPcemicXXWuqHGqdscQB0oNBIeL381Qme31ecNF6keNAB0FVkmj0D3Xl7VNd/K2riyYAydotQFIw1klVg+DpBjrMhMEDt2IFqgCsAohjwtc= Received: by 10.86.31.18 with SMTP id e18mr2375039fge.68.1208428796604; Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [217.206.187.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm18176300gve.1.2008.04.17.03.39.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: Ruben van Staveren In-Reply-To: References: <200803051432.m25EWaeT035807@drugs.dv.isc.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-z+VtvqzUJp2ZOv+1Dpn5" Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:39:51 +0100 Message-Id: <1208428791.1940.32.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Mark Andrews , Andy Dills Subject: Re: INET6 required for SCTP in 7.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:39:58 -0000 --=-z+VtvqzUJp2ZOv+1Dpn5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 15:46 +0100, Ruben van Staveren wrote: > On 5 Mar 2008, at 15:32, Mark Andrews wrote: >=20 > >> - IPv6 provides almost no technological upgrades beyond additional =20 > >> address > >> space. DHCP addressed the auto configuration feature, VPNs addressed > >> IPsec. > > > > That extra address space really is a big advantage. It > > really is so much better to be able to get to machines you > > need to without have to manually setup application relays > > because you couldn't get enough address space to be able > > to globally address everything want to. >=20 > Please see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_y36fG2Oba0 >=20 > This song exactly explains why you should care about IPv6 :) >=20 > I don't get this "anti IPv6" behaviour. If people are not willing to =20 > adopt it, it will not get tested which in turn will make other people =20 > hesitating to jump on the bandwagon. Having it compiled in your system =20 > does not cause harm if you don't configure it and for everything else =20 > there are traffic filters. Just like IPv4. >=20 > - Ruben Sorry to stir a hornets nest, but this[1] is why people have a distrust of IPv6. This clearly is not a failing of IPv6, but it would still catch people out who do not use IPv6, but have it enabled as part of a 'default' configuration. If you don't use something at all, the chance of it having or exposing some semi-related bug is not worth the risk. [1] http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D5422+0 +current/freebsd-announce --=-z+VtvqzUJp2ZOv+1Dpn5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkgHKPIACgkQlcRvFfyds/d7hgCdEktllD+ZJ2Fi8hWBzT5O7gzE afwAoKa5mHXleoooprbn5wkZlr1qg04R =puNa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-z+VtvqzUJp2ZOv+1Dpn5--