From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 28 23:43:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294B916A417 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B8F13C48E for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ImHmS-0000i4-ER for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:42:56 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with SMTP id l9SNgtQH004924 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:42:55 GMT Received: (qmail 86892 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Oct 2007 23:42:50 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:42:50 +0000 To: Predrag Punosevac Message-ID: <20071028234250.GA86843@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4723CEFD.2040906@gmail.com> <20071027234110.GA47576@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4723EB0C.7080702@math.arizona.edu> <4724687A.5000107@gmail.com> <20071028111354.GA85025@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4724E14D.7010701@math.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4724E14D.7010701@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:42:56 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LaTeX oder teTeX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:43:01 -0000 On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 12:21:49PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > Frank Shute wrote: > >On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 10:46:18AM +0000, Christian Walther wrote > > > > > >>When I need additional macro packages (one for creating nice > >>presentations would be nice indeed) I'll check with ctan. > >> > > > >Check out beamer once you've installed teTeX: > > > >/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/doc/latex/beamer/beameruserguide.pdf > > > >There are also some examples installed: > > > >/usr/local/share/texmf-dist/doc/latex/beamer/examples/ > > > > > > > TeX/Latex has a several level of presentation classes. > Simplest is class of documents is slidetex then follows foiltex, > prosper, beamer, ppower4 and powerdot. > > I happen to think that powerdot is by far the best (you can play movies > from slides, easily customized easy to use 40 pages manual vs 400 pages > for beamer) . > Slidetex and foiltex are really low level classes essentially allowing > you to create simple slides in TeX. Prosper which is ported for FreeBSD > is obsolete (because of powerdot) and baggy . > Beamer is ported for FreeBSD and OpenBSD. ppower4 is ported for OpenBSD. > > The only reason people like beamer (the same goes for ppower4) > is that it lets you use pdflatex option while powerdot requires using > dvi-->ps-->pdf. > As I am old school this is completely irrelevant for me because that is > what I am doing anyway. The quality of slides is whole level > up with respect to Beamer. Unfortunately most people seems to disagree > with my statement above and use beamer. > > If you are using serious editor like emacs you can customize editor that > it does that automatically for you. > > I was thinking of porting powerdot my self as there is no dependency > relation to TeXLive. Debian and many other distros of Linux have this > package in something they call TeX extra I think (basic additional stuff > for teTeX). TeXLive does include powerdot by default as > every possible option for Latex but is usually modular and you would not > install in that fashion anyway. The same goes for MiKTex 2.5 > which is standard Windblows distribution of TeX, Latex. > > I gave up after encountering problems with older fonts in ported version > of teTeX and decided that it is better to wait for guys to port TeXLive > than to waist the time trying to resolve dependency issues teTeX vs > powerdot. In the mean time I use live DVD with TeX Live which is > perfectly OK solution with me as I do not want 3.7Gb of all TeXLive junk > (font for languages I have never heard or some exotic features) on my > hard-drive anyway. It is also really made for Linux and hard-disk > installation will do quite a few thinks that we do not allow in FreeBSD > (like using /etc file for non system applications) > > I hope this helps to clarify the issue with presentation classes. > > Predrag > > > P.S. As always best source of info for TeX related stuff is > http://www.ctan.org I recently joined TUG (TeX users group) and one of the benefits of membership is that you can get TeXLive on disk from them. I also find their periodical, Tugboat, to be both informative and interesting. I mainly joined to give a charitable donation as I use TeX/LaTeX quite a bit. Anyway, I recommend joining to users who aren't already joined: http://www.tug.org/ Thanks for your informative runthrough of the presentation classes in LaTeX. I haven't really read comp.text.tex in about 5 years so I'm a bit out of the loop on recent developments and I haven't done a presentation in about 7 years! When I did last, I simply used pdflatex, graphicx and hyperref. -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html