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Date:      Mon, 17 May 1999 18:56:26 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Adam Szilveszter <sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
To:        juksi@iname.com
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Newbie tip
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.3.96.990517184301.1790A-100000@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990517192855.sjuke@saunalahti.fi>

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Hi!


On Mon, 17 May 1999, Jukka Simila wrote:

> 
> On 17-May-99 Adam Szilveszter wrote:
> 
[...]
> You don't even have to move the mouse, take two identical mouses and boot with
> another mouse installed, then switch it to the another, you have to reboot
> before win95 detects the new mouse.
:-)))))) Especially PS/2 mice behave that way...
> 
> But:
> If you have a computer that can't be power-on for 24h / day, say, a computer
> used mainly for text-editing (that old 486 :), wouldn't it be nicer to give
> users a possibility to shut it down with their own password, rather than
> delivering root's password to everyone, or recommending microsoft-style
> shutdown "just switch the power off, it's all right then" :)

Hmmmm. That's a different matter then. My computer is turned off every day
as well because my roommate cannot stand if it is running at night. But
I'm there so I always can turn it off. I have not thought the matter over,
obviously. from this perspective, your solution very much makes sense.
What I said is that one should be very careful in configuring packages to
be sudo but that said there are circumstances when it is necessary. The M$
style shutdown idea is coooool, although some actually practice it in our
dorm as well and don't even know that it is bad...

> 
> "You cannot shut down the computer yourself, but just ask me and I will be
> there in a minute. Oh, I forgot, I won't be home until tomorrow.. Would you
> like to become a sysadmin?" :)
:-)))))) That's the result when I speak w/o thinking... yep. Obviously a
bug or config error inside my head. Has happened before as well. A fix,
anyone?:-))))) 

That aside, I was only considering single-user environments and LANs where
normal users cannot access the console anyway. That's because I was
drawing on my prevoius experience here at the dorm where only these
environments seem to occur:-) At home my family still uses Winsssssuxxx so
it is not a problem. Maybe I will bring in some change this summer...but
my machine was more urgent because it actually has Net access so I can
utilize FreeBSD's full potential.

Regards:
          Szilveszter

          Szeged University
          Hungary



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