From owner-freebsd-java Mon May 29 11:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f155.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5D9D37B77E for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 11:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 67560 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2000 18:49:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000529184925.67559.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 May 2000 11:49:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: past@netmode.ntua.gr, glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java IDEs Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 14:49:25 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi: It seems to me that porting JBuilder and porting a JDK are very different. I offered to see if Inprise would port JBuilder because on they claim that it is written in pure Java (so it shouldn't be too difficult to port) and they tout it's multi-platform nature, so an additional platform, which is currently underserved, should be a positive thing for them. An "official" port of the JDK, involves licensing and other issues that I don't have a good grasp of, but seems to be much more complicated than Inprise porting software that they own. Inprise recently made an official JKD port on Linux, but they had to team with Sun and they had Blackdown's port (at Release Candidate level) to work from. In sum, porting JBuilder does not imply that a JDK would also be ported. I agree with your reasoning, however, that a JBuilder port could start a relationship between FreeBSD and Inprise - which could result in a JDK port in the future, and would send a signal to Sun. *IF* Inprise agreed to port JBuilder, they may only port the _free_ Foundation edition (at first) since the Professional and Enterprise editions might be more work (Enterprise, for example, includes an EJB Application Server). Additionally, I am still not convinced that a native port of an IDE is necessary or desireable since it appears that IDE's will work just fine under linux emulation. I'd like to hear from people who have tried/use various Java IDE's before I approach my friend at Inprise. Is a native IDE port needed for 1) performance, 2) added functionality, 3) interoperability? John >Panagiotis Astithas wrote: >I have JBuilder Enterprise Edition running, with that small tweak. I >don't use it much though, since I have only 64 Megs of RAM on my >main system and JBuilder needs that much just for breakfast... > >About a native FreeBSD port though, I think that only the fact that a >major software firm like Inprise, should support java on FreeBSD, >would make Sun change its priorities on the subject. It may well have >more impact to Sun, than our numerous requests for a port. > >-past ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message