From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 17:34:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6D2A70E12 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x231.google.com (mail-pf0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7236112C5; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x231.google.com with SMTP id n128so26642693pfn.3; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:34:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=l1frb1NM8c2RkrGKmiVY9Dw+vo2OADujS4/+L3zWXCU=; b=XB+m4f2Se2qlzEIUZZBa6MJgStws+bojtxGzVi4zIiwcgiBSyTjucPJoaqugPL9Oo0 C7D16TaDNG+Rtv+fCnE1TwAVGaCMcbhdj2adkA402lL11J8fG+i9mbhISRa6rCVuREtg fvtPECQlFavQlZ8KLW/iho3RptR5ghEQIx8SVDcK1jXMhQnpLFzqQU6g06nAgdUXLevI LrN7kgBCyv5d6J+LH4psXMZSWREuxG8AAoA9ngO7ohRLesqXaQAfrY6LX3kdMOeO6hWO VXeCJI4YO2RROL8uZyFc5/O84KkGGDIjr4DWs2O2Ipwha1xDZcJSttknDueTtoOzRWl2 sPMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=l1frb1NM8c2RkrGKmiVY9Dw+vo2OADujS4/+L3zWXCU=; b=EJlMsYJRj5o53mPiLZGQzCZglRW40Ys9WVYpKpA483CDROZoVpkUfwNidw8vg3owDR ligpA7u1q/Kjq1pRDbXBF2ZGHCGOzhhZK8R8enO0ziidwMP84637MNa7JovgsPB2bfOK e+ugd/DIgZY5tUgkxLPopm99hbR32SFC52K5mtjSm8/2GJ18uK8LJ8NqSBiitNM2ErYz LJVekK1/Yat0NaYifH7x4n8UuYXvDPCQPSfnkUGi+ZQJXityxMwP66d47WsW0fz4lH9E JkXxRbbZSpEnAusSW3pQRTPSIkuPdxLkY/bUostt04tW4Swa79bxmyvEuum+sM3jpGss XRpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQiwKz7G2TrKOBJOCCN+8e4IIZ/XWDFqEvFRRLXE2DvX4BnZ+KArVjW1QwkAdkcaA== X-Received: by 10.98.89.145 with SMTP id k17mr6488936pfj.82.1454002486990; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:34:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [22.160.77.234] ([172.56.38.103]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 24sm2377950pfn.50.2016.01.28.09.34.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:34:45 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) From: NGie Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13D15) In-Reply-To: <56AA3D54.5020502@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:34:40 -0800 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0D97C9BF-D3E1-4A01-AB97-81AB9CB75FD4@gmail.com> References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> <56AA3D54.5020502@freebsd.org> To: Allan Jude X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:34:47 -0000 > On Jan 28, 2016, at 08:09, Allan Jude wrote: ... > According to our current release schedule, FreeBSD 18.0 will not come > out for 35 years (2051). >=20 > The general approach would appear to be just downloading new packages > and updating the system. For a drastic upgrade like that, you'd likely > have to build a newer version of pkg from ports. >=20 > The approach for offering an upgrade from 10.x to 11.0 will be the more > interesting endeavour. I would actually say "don't do that (upgrade from 10 to 11 via pkg). Use fre= ebsd-update instead, then upgrade to 11.1 or 12.0 via pkg". The rationale fo= r this is that if you install the package from 10.x, and need to downgrade f= or whatever reason, you'll likely be dealing with a reinstall or a VM/zfs ro= llback as opposed to being able to install a downgraded base system/kernel p= ackage. Thanks, -NGie=