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Mon, 9 Nov 2020 00:26:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 00:25:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Yuet-nan Wong To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" , Guido Falsi Message-ID: <1005601929.3170767.1604881559329@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <83553ef9-d364-a773-3c0a-e4323fc6492f@madpilot.net> References: <1886905538.2890247.1604778668944.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1886905538.2890247.1604778668944@mail.yahoo.com> <83553ef9-d364-a773-3c0a-e4323fc6492f@madpilot.net> Subject: Re: Reason for +MANIFEST & +COMPACT_MANIFEST birthday of 1 Jan 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16944 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CTsH105tvz3LHl X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; 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Perhaps I should be explicit - why do +MANIFEST and +COMPACT_MANIFEST have a birthday of 1 Jan 1970 rather than the date/time it is actually created. Perhaps this is just another bug. On Sunday, 8 November 2020, 7:42:06 am AEDT, Guido Falsi via freebsd-ports wrote: On 07/11/20 20:51, Yuet-nan Wong via freebsd-ports wrote: > Is there a particular reason why? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time -- Guido Falsi _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Nov 9 01:30:36 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517D82E4035 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 01:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuetnanwong128@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic302-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic302-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.186.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CTtjR2LCXz3NmC for ; 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Mon, 9 Nov 2020 01:30:33 +0000 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 01:29:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Yuet-nan Wong To: FreeBSD Ports Message-ID: <841040560.3183838.1604885398485@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: pkg documentation MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <841040560.3183838.1604885398485.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16944 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CTtjR2LCXz3NmC X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.97 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.970]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.163.186.146:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.163.186.146:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.186.146:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.186.146:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 01:30:36 -0000 Strange that something as important as a package management system doesnt h= ave up-to-date/accurate documentation. For example, this is the first item = in google search for "FreeBSD pkg" https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/pkgng-intro.html (useful for rudimenta= ry use.=C2=A0 This is official=20 https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pkgng-intro.html= , both 23602 characters ) https://github.com/freebsd/pkg=C2=A0 which is inaccurate (MANIFEST is not i= n UCL format) https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng also inaccurate MANIFEST is not in YAML form= at=20 Then I wonder what changes are planned and how can I advocate for FreeBSD t= o other teams. But there is nothing to describe what changes are planned. So I looked around.=C2=A0 Perhaps in bugzilla or github has some clues?=C2= =A0 But now I find 336 open issues at https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues has 263 open issues https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=3D__open__&bug_sta= tus=3DNew&bug_status=3DOpen&bug_status=3DIn%20Progress&bug_status=3DUNCONFI= RMED&list_id=3D386277&product=3DPorts%20%26%20Packages&query_format=3Dadvan= ced&short_desc=3Dports-mgmt%2Fpkg&short_desc_type=3Dallwordssubstr 73 non-c= losed issues but there have been 4 releases in October 2020 and 7 in Sept I worry that choosing FreeBSD might be a mistake. This all started because I get=20 pkg: Failed to execute lua script: [string "args =3D {}..."]:11: attempt to= call a nil value (field 'stat') pkg: lua script failed when I add packages on 12.2R, and from https://github.com/freebsd/pkg "Scri= pt MUST be in sh format.Nothing else will work."