From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 22 20:22:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DAD16A4CE; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:22:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8643D49; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:22:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9MKNZSp062514; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:23:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41796BBD.1010501@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:21:17 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer References: <417960C2.8040007@freebsd.org> <41796757.5000500@elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <41796757.5000500@elischer.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Andre Oppermann Subject: Re: Annoying SCSI waiting... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:22:59 -0000 Julian Elischer wrote: > > > Andre Oppermann wrote: > >> Can't we just reduce the annoying: >> >> Waiting 15 second for SCSI devices to settle >> >> to something shorter like 5 seconds in GENERIC? I know perfectly well >> where it >> came from but these days not many of those slow disks are still around. > > > > Actually I'll wager money you DON'T know where it came from because it's > really obscure :-) > > When I wrote the original SCSI code I wrote it for MACH and only later > did I port it to 386BSD > from which it went to FreeBSD (and is still in NetBSD I believe). I > originally selected 15 seconds > because it was needed by an AEG SCSI neural net based OCR/ICR character > recognition engine > we used to use with MACH. > > I set it to 3 seconds on my systems.. > I won't argue that it orginated there, but it's also been quite convenient for tape drives, cdroms, and changers. I usually modify the timeout except for systems that have this. Scott