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Date:      Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:32:39 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Threads and the scheduler
Message-ID:  <199911301732.JAA25846@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <3842DBB5.8AFC9B6@newsguy.com> <199911292022.MAA08694@apollo.backplane.com> <3843D43E.4F40A642@newsguy.com>

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:Mmmm... that's not exactly what I'm worried about. I'm thinking of
:applications which use threads to handle both i/o and cpu-bound
:tasks. Our scheduler raises the i/o-bound tasks priority and lowers
:cpu-bound tasks priority. With a program using threads to do both,
:the scheduler would end up treating the process as cpu-bound and
:lower it's priority.
:
:Ok, maybe that's fault of the application design, but still... :-)
:
:Processes with enough i/o-bound tasks to actually use up all quanta
:before running out of threads will suffer from a similar fate.
:
:--
:Daniel C. Sobral			(8-DCS)
:dcs@newsguy.com
:dcs@freebsd.org

    I don't think you have anything to worry about.  A thread is going to go
    to sleep if it has nothing to do even if all the I/O is asynchronous
    (i.e. thread is mixing cpu and I/O bound elements).  It isn't the I/O
    that raises the priority, it is the act of the process going to sleep
    that raises the priority.

    The basic characteristics of a program will not change whether it is 
    threaded or not, because the program is still doing essentially the
    same task as it was before (just a little more efficiently).  So if
    an unthreaded program tended to use 10% of the cpu before the same
    program threaded will also tend to use 10% of the cpu.

    You will wind up with something relatively close to what you had before 
    in regards to the scheduling.


					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>




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