From owner-freebsd-security Tue Mar 18 5:22:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F1137B401 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 05:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.neotext.ca (h24-70-64-200.ed.shawcable.net [24.70.64.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AB843F3F for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 05:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from campbell@localhost.neotext.ca) Received: from localhost.neotext.ca (localhost.neotext.ca [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.neotext.ca (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2IDMMKd021215; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:22:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from campbell@localhost.neotext.ca) Received: (from campbell@localhost) by localhost.neotext.ca (8.12.8/8.12.5/Submit) id h2IDMJlI021214; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:22:19 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:22:19 -0700 From: Duncan Patton a Campbell To: Mark Murray Cc: lupe@lupe-christoph.de, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Administrativia: Mailing list procedures. Message-Id: <20030318062219.4da69ba8.campbell@neotext.ca> In-Reply-To: <200303181158.h2IBwu4j028502@grimreaper.grondar.org> References: <20030317182110.GJ12105@lupe-christoph.de> <200303181158.h2IBwu4j028502@grimreaper.grondar.org> Organization: Index Express Ltd. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="9CgOsF.l=.pbOq9c" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --9CgOsF.l=.pbOq9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:58:56 +0000 Mark Murray wrote: > Lupe Christoph writes: > > We had this discussion a while ago. There is no mailing list that > > provides qualified answers to security-related questions. You are > > fighting windmills. These questions will come to this mailing list, as > > long as there is no freebsd-security-questions. > > I've been tolerating certain QnA sessions as long as they were > short and somewhat security focussed, with no answer already > available. > > > Sorry, I have no idea what needs to be done to start such a mailing > > list. Can people more versed in the FreeBSD mailing list procedures > > please explain how such a mailing list can be started? > > Sure. :-) > > We are looking at more up-to-date mailing list software. Watch this spot. > I certainly intend to set up a security-questions list. > > The need for new software came after I set myself up as list-owner of > this list. 600-700 bounces _per_message_ was not funny. I've manually > removed the more chronic bouncers, and now it its a more reasonable > <100 bounces per posting :-(. > > > PS: I have to admit that I'm always confused by the difference in > > policies between debian-security and freebsd-security. The Debian > > crowd welcomes all questions related to security while the freebsd > > crowd seems to be obsessed with policies. > Only _some_ folks around here, like our self-appointed net-nanny, have these kind of fetishistic obsessions. Recently one of our more idiot-minded policies, regarding subscriber-only posts, was abandoned. However there is some other stink in the ointment: every time I post something the nannies object to, my email feed from this list ceases for a while. Strange but true. Dhu > We are not Debian. I can't speak for them. In our case, security@ > was a virtual clone of questions@, and most of the security folks > that I know either unsubscribed or scanned the list very infrequently. > > I do see the need for a questions list, but I _don't_ want > yet-another-noise-channel. We have enough of those already. > > M > -- > Mark Murray > iumop ap!sdn w,I idlaH > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message --9CgOsF.l=.pbOq9c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+dx2LXgQtJ7uBra8RAr/QAJ9wz/DSkXOtGixvezzb/ybHhnkyegCgwexK D9knUCty+BJl08zIk07XHlU= =fDUP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9CgOsF.l=.pbOq9c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message