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Date:      Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:36:39 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Munish Chopra <messiah_man@hotmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Realtek 8139 NIC and IRQ problem.
Message-ID:  <20010428113639.B69945@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <F59kLQ8aZRhQdOgl4rh00005c76@hotmail.com>; from messiah_man@hotmail.com on Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 08:55:52AM %2B0200
References:  <F59kLQ8aZRhQdOgl4rh00005c76@hotmail.com>

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On Friday, 27 April 2001 at  8:55:52 +0200, Munish Chopra wrote:
>> I wonder how good our RealTek driver is.
>
> It's written by Bill Paul, who is (as far is I know and have heard) actually
> more than 'just decent' at writing drivers. The driver seems to work fine
> too, but the card just screws things up every chance it gets.

Bill's a good programmer, no doubt.  But he can't outguess the
manufacturers if he doesn't get the documentation he needs.  For
example, I had a case recently with an el cheapo card which had
slightly different specs from others of its ilk:

dc0: <Macronix 98715AEC-C 10/100BaseTX> port 0xc400-0xc4ff mem 0xeb000000-0xeb0000ff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0
dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:c6:f9:d3:fa

The symptoms were that the card would appear to go to sleep, and you
couldn't contact the machine.  If you were on the machine, however,
things would work a while and then freeze up again.  It turned out
that this card had a subtle difference in the multicast hash table: it
was only 128 bits instead of 512.  This stopped it receiving broadcast
messages, such as ARP requests.  Bill added a fix for it, and we have
seen no problems since.  It's quite possible that the RealTek driver
has similar issues.

Greg
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