From owner-freebsd-current Tue Oct 12 13:12: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9CEA15119 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oppermann@pipeline.ch) Received: (qmail 57238 invoked from network); 12 Oct 1999 20:11:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pipeline.ch) ([195.134.128.41]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Oct 1999 20:11:46 -0000 Message-ID: <380395E7.2D38E200@pipeline.ch> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:11:19 +0200 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , scrappy@hub.org, nate@mt.sri.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch References: <19991012142522.57A98152AF@hub.freebsd.org> <38038AA5.45796B87@pipeline.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 9:23 PM +0200 1999/10/12, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > > I know some guys with list's in the three digit k to one digit M range > > which don't have to deal with bounces at any time. I know it's hard > > to believe but it's true and I can provide you with names where one > > can ask for confirmation. > > And Bryan Costales & Eric Allman have hacked sendmail to support > VERPs, and last I heard InfoBeat was handling on the order of several > million customers per day. Of course, they're doing an e-mail merge > operation so that each recipient gets a unique message, but that > would just put an even heavier load on the system than a mailing list > the same size. That is just how VERP works, every email is unique (at least the return-path). They must be crazy to run a several million recipients mailing list with sendmail... Do you remember the time when the FreeBSD lists were driven by sendmail? The lists were lagging several hours behind. And I don't think we have high two or three digit k subscribers on a single list. Maybe JMB can shed some light on how many people are subscribed to the lists (just ranges). -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message