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From: Matthias Oestreicher To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 18:44:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <2Gje1zHyY4F4xdAjUygdYrv0s4_NPauqPcpmN5Uh6S3D_3kOP-StUCF5zZyamJ-kLWpkO1mkpQkOSglyhTFszdHgLfUNr5Q3W9iMjeWn8os=@protonmail.ch> References: <4fc0f22a-c901-aa8c-e083-adbeef12a525@kicp.uchicago.edu> <2Gje1zHyY4F4xdAjUygdYrv0s4_NPauqPcpmN5Uh6S3D_3kOP-StUCF5zZyamJ-kLWpkO1mkpQkOSglyhTFszdHgLfUNr5Q3W9iMjeWn8os=@protonmail.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 75D4874C25 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=smormegpa.no header.s=20140924 header.b=mFBt/W84 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.18 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[smormegpa.no:s=20140924]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[smormegpa.no]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.994,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.998,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(1.00)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(2.96), asn: 51468(2.10), country: DK(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[smormegpa.no:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx2.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com,mx3.pub.mailpod3-cph3.one.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[184.210.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.995,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 18:01:06 -0000 Am Freitag, den 15.02.2019, 16:06 +0000 schrieb Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions: > > On 2/15/19 9:23 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: > > > > > On 15/02/2019 15:18, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Experts, > > > > I am looking for "Smartness-free" web browser. In the past I > > > > was using > > > > midori, but today I was bitten in my backside by "smartness" > > > > introduced > > > > into latest midori. > > > > Why. I have a bunch of machines with older 3ware RAIDs. The > > > > last I loved > > > > for having web interface. To the contrary to command line, > > > > especially in > > > > case of hardware RAID management, it is much more difficult to > > > > screw up > > > > when using GUI. > > > > In the past, when firefox went all the way about SSL > > > > certificates, > > > > midori was my life preserver. I do access these RAID web > > > > interfaces > > > > locally, and I do know what's going on inside these machines... > > > > I can > > > > disable SSL in 3ware RAID daemon (this time it just doesn't > > > > accept > > > > certificates 3ware daemon presents - to way for me to affect > > > > that that I > > > > can find) but... I just don't like some piece of software > > > > thinking it is > > > > smarter than I am when I use it. Dough. > > > > Any suggestions, anybody? > > > > > > Depending on how much graphic decoration the GUI uses, maybe a > > > text > > > based browser like lynx might serve your needs? > > > > Thanks for suggestion! > > > > Alas, 3ware uses frames which lunx doesn't support... > > I did not understand very well your requirements (my fault: I think I > lack experience > in what you are doing), but I can suggest two web browsers that are > pretty basic. > > I usa falkon, which is the new version of qupzilla. I choosed > Qupzilla/Falkon for its > simplicity: it always does what I ask without fancy useless things, > and if something > gets in my way, I can usually disable it. However it is based on qt5, > thus it might > be too complex for your needs. > > In that case, I am pretty sure dillo makes your deal: it's awful, > unusable for any modern > website (at least, this is my opinion). But it might be perfect for > you, I think it can deal > with your web interfaces. > > Lorenzo Salvadore. Off all the smartness-free browsers, that handle modern websites well, there are only two I can recommend. The already mentioned Qupzilla/Falkon and the Otter-browser. Both are Webkit and QT based. Otter-browser is an attempt to create something similar to the older Opera browser, but without the mail thing. It let's you open SSL webpages with outdated certificates and plain HTTP as well. I have used both browsers for a a long time, and they are very good. Otter-browser seems to be made for you, since "Controlled by the user, not vice versa" is what the project says about it 😉 Kind Regards Matthias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Med vennlig hilsen Matthias Oestreicher