From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 15 18:30:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09764CDD for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x24e.google.com (mail-qc0-x24e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::24e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0BAA1718 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f206.google.com with SMTP id i17so10911qcy.9 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:30:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:message-id:date:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zPUWjpBfJu+9kE7qz7Ye0vcSuxKxUIHQvX7+TUdLduY=; b=0gjTiLwYqjSlSmQUkDCmcBWfprLSXiopMkV4wZ3ywcNoBrU9SL4ecFp4xsyrmtE1J+ lnl9nPZab6J6Xb7zlMmxIW2MGpSGBxH6zWaaDNVihA0/+lBq1qOsG5rQOZPrzAXS70Ya SJ4zlAEvye1moGO4OYe68PtEuGDkRr1nKa7aqxKjYvkke3Ge78qONCqY84Rdm2YJCp8p 94rTcd8MYqZZsoRdLgw85bTUQN//+y1jdf/10f5SGAZdA9lnidOi84wZ3COlM20W4cn8 kJjbRuF9g+lbnR4AA1X33jXB53oSSKHIeEctgMloib8ItBfbs89jkkJKDrLpe/BOt+P9 FmRQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.26.209 with SMTP id c57mr1187569yha.45.1389810636976; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:30:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <047d7b5dafb052787804f00681a8@google.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:30:36 +0000 Subject: www.freebsd.org From: Amber White To: doc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:30:38 -0000 DQoNCkhpLA0KDQpJIHdhbnRlZCB0byBzZW5kIHlvdSBhIHF1aWNrIG5vdGUuIFdpdGggYSBmZXcg c2ltcGxlIGNoYW5nZXMgdG8gbWFrZSB5b3VyDQpzaXRlIG1vcmUgU0VPLWZyaWVuZGx5IEmSbSBz dXJlIHlvdSBjYW4gY29udmVydCBtb3JlIHZpc2l0b3JzIGludG8gbGVhZHMNCmFuZCBnZXQgaXQg cGxhY2VkIGhpZ2hlciBpbiB0aGUgb3JnYW5pYyBzZWFyY2ggcmVzdWx0cywgZm9yIGtleXdvcmRz IHRoYXQNCm1hdHRlciB0byB5b3UgdGhlIG1vc3QuDQoNCldlIGFyZSBhIExvY2FsIGJhc2VkIGNv bXBhbnkgd2l0aCBncmVhdCBpbi1ob3VzZSB0ZWNobmljYWwgdGVhbSB3aG8gcmVhbGx5DQprbm93 IHRoZWlyIHN0dWZmIGFib3V0IHNlYXJjaCBlbmdpbmUgb3B0aW1pemF0aW9uLg0KDQpXb3VsZCB5 b3UgbGlrZSBhIGJpdCBtb3JlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIGFib3V0IGhvdyB0byBnaXZlIHlvdXIgd2Vi c2l0ZSBhDQpib29zdCB3aXRoIGJldHRlciBTRU8/DQoNCkJlc3QgcmVnYXJkcywNCg0KQW1iZXIg V2hpdGUNClNFTy9XRUIgU3BlY2lhbGlzdA0KICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFMgICAgRSAgIE8gICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAqU2VhcmNoIEVuZ2luZSBPcHRpbWl6YXRpb24qDQoNCldlIHJlc3BlY3QgeW91 ciBwcml2YWN5IGFuZCB3YW50IHRvIG1ha2Ugc3VyZSB5b3UgYXJlIGF3YXJlIG9mIGEgZmV3DQp0 aGluZ3MuIEJ5IHJlcGx5aW5nIHRvIHRoaXMgZW1haWwsIHlvdSBhdXRob3JpemUgb3VyIFVTQSBh ZmZpbGlhdGVzIHRoYXQNCmNhbiBoZWxwIHdpdGggeW91ciBwcm9qZWN0IHRvIGNhbGwgeW91IGF0 IHRoZSBudW1iZXIgeW91IHByb3ZpZGVkLCBhbmQgeW91DQp1bmRlcnN0YW5kIHRoYXQgdGhleSBt YXkgdXNlIGF1dG9tYXRlZCBwaG9uZSB0ZWNobm9sb2d5IHRvIGNhbGwgeW91LiBBdCBubw0KdGlt ZSBhcmUgeW91IHJlcXVpcmVkIHRvIG1ha2UgYSBwdXJjaGFzZS4NClVuc3Vic2NyaWJlDQo= From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 15 18:26:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 874FEA20 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5927D1672 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.20.30.90] (50-1-51-230.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.51.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0FI6kxp079106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:06:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from phoffman@proper.com) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: Host 50-1-51-230.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.1.51.230] claimed to be [10.20.30.90] From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: The Handbook doc on "pkg" is badly out of date Message-Id: <1AD4F981-7EB6-4959-A773-560C9617839E@proper.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:26:51 -0800 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:26:54 -0000 It now seems like the normal workflow for people who want to use "pkg" = is: - Hear about pkg - Find the information in the Handbook at = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/pkgng-intro.html - Install following those directions - Get mysterious messages while following those directions - Google the messages - Discover https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng - Make those changes - Carry on This seems kind of non-optimal. Can the Handbook be fixed to deal with = the newer way "pkg" runs? --Paul Hoffman=