From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 14 15:47:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F9837B41B; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter3.wemm.org ([12.232.27.13]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011214234709.ENKA403.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@peter3.wemm.org>; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 23:47:09 +0000 Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBENl9s53799; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:47:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FB33808; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:47:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3Com driver problems In-Reply-To: <176.cf4901.294bd7bc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:47:08 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011214234708.E9FB33808@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI, this is another dennis@etinc.com clone. HP889@aol.com wrote: > >> with 3Com905B devices. > >> And a quick search did not reveal any major problems with the 3com cards. > > > > A "quick search" of what? Get some perspective. The "hackers" are only > > interested in cards that they use, and they all use intel for high end > stuff. > > Bill paul is too busy writing drivers for some new gigabit card to worry > > about old stuff. (note that most of his drivers are optimised for the Alpha > > and not i386...like what pct of people are using Alpha?) And there is > > apparantly no interest in fixing anything or finding out whats wrong > because > > some guy at freebsd with a 2 inch weener keeps knocking me off the > > list...they dont like criticism. I've already fixed it, so all im trying to > > do is save you a lot of time doing work thats already been done. > > >Actually, the cards are very much optimized for the i386. See the lack of > >using bus_dma for example, which is required for these cards to work on > things > >ike sparc64. Grow up and realize that not all the world is an i386. Ports > >like sparc64, powerpc, ia64, and x86-64 are being added and they are not > >exactly like the i386. I've used 3com cards (xl(4)) without any problems. > > >They are rather nice cards and Bill Paul prefers those to Intel cards since > >Intel is so nazi with its docco. :) > > >To Guret: > > >Please don't listen to Dennis. He is feeding you lies so that you will go > buy? > >his "better" ethernet drivers. He is very obnoxious and thus has been banne d > >from the lists several times. This is just another one of his silly aliases . > > We dont sell ethernet drivers, and Im not trying to "hide". Why does linux > have specific code to disable the stats under load if Im making this up? Why > can you lock up a FreeBSD 4.4 system with a 3com card at 20Kpps due to > counter overflow interrupts in about 3 seconds? > > Its too bad that pointing out bugs is deemed as being obnoxious. Maybe its > why they were complaining that linux outperforms Freebsd last week? > > Guret, I apologize for trying to help. Im sure these fellows at freebsd.org > will work painstakingly to help you find your problem. But since they are in > denial about there being anything wrong with it, you most likely are sunk. > > Try to front end your machine with a switch...the 5 cards is most likely your > problem. With each device you increase your bus contention (ie worsen the > worst case bus master scenario)...either that or get a 4 port card that is > more efficient than 5 individual cards. > > DB > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message