From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 14 02:16:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEDB16A4CE for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:16:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7471843D1D for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:16:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch01.acuson.com ([157.226.230.208]:4919) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1D0UUb-0005Ap-48; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:53:37 -0800 Received: by mvaexch01.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id <17HX354B>; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:04:18 -0800 Message-ID: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641ADF@mvaexch01.acuson.com> From: Johnson David To: 'stheg olloydson' , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:44:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: SPAM: Score 3.2: RE: SPAM: Score 2.5: Re: FreeBSD logo design competition X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:16:47 -0000 From: stheg olloydson [mailto:stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com] > > Well, well, well! Hit too close to home did I? I said that those > complaining about the beastie belong to an irrational minority that > wish to impose their religion on others. In what way is this statement > bigotry or anti-Christian or anti-American? The phrases you used were: "America's Taliban", "force their religious orthodoxy", "eliminate the barrier between state and church", "make the United States into a theocratic country", and "an irrational minority". These statements are false mischaracterizations designed to promulgate a stereotype. Similar statements about race, gender or ethnicity are bigotry, so using them to stereotype a creed is no different. In many cases there will be those who do indeed fit the stereotype. There are some Jews who have large noses and are miserly. There are some blacks who talk in rhyme and eat watermelon. There are some homosexuals who talk with a lisp and weak wrists. So yes, there are some "Christians" who probably do want a theocracy and an elimination of the disestablishment clause. But those people are in the very small insignificant minority. I did not take offense because you merely mentioned that these people exist. I took offense because you have magnified these people far beyond their petty importance. Your post was NOT about the logo contest, but the continuation of an errnoneous and politically loaded stereotype. David Johnson