From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 00:59:39 2004 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2106C16A4CE; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:59:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D1943D4C; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:59:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter.lei@ieee.org) Received: from [10.10.0.75] (c-24-13-174-21.client.comcast.net[24.13.174.21]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20041023005905016001r5jje> (Authid: peterlei); Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:59:29 +0000 Message-ID: <4179ACB8.4020108@ieee.org> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 19:58:32 -0500 From: Peter Lei <peter.lei@ieee.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SUZUKI Shinsuke <suz@kame.net> References: <4177C8AD.6060706@freebsd.org> <20041021153933.GK13756@empiric.icir.org> <4177E25E.804639E@freebsd.org> <20041021213248.223cab2c.molter@tin.it> <x7r7nrgsol.wl%suz@crl.hitachi.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <x7r7nrgsol.wl%suz@crl.hitachi.co.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010006070805020405040504" cc: molter@tin.it cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: Randall Stewart <randall@stewart.chicago.il.us> cc: andre@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCTP in KAME / Re: Removing T/TCP and replacing it withsomething simpler X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture <freebsd-arch.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>, <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>, <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:59:39 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010006070805020405040504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this is because any bugs that are found are usually communicated directly to us. I think Randy has a better handle on how many people are using this stack. I'm quite sure it is stable enough to go in to -current. While the SCTP API hasn't gone through last call, it's fairly stable and we have both "converted" many applications from TCP to SCTP using the sockets API, as well as had portability between the KAME SCTP stack and the linux stack for some test applications used at the last interop event (except for the standard sockets issues that one runs into even for TCP like no sin_length field in the sockaddr struct). The same stack has also been ported to Mac OSX as a native kernel build as well as an loadable/unloadble NKE w/a minor kernel change. I'm not aware of any KAME SNAP compilation failures w/and w/o SCTP. The major changes to our SCTP code when it gets committed into KAME has been that of code format/style. What is the existing criteria for a measure of "stability"? regards, --peter SUZUKI Shinsuke wrote: >>>>>>On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:32:48 +0200 >>>>>>molter@tin.it(Marco Molteni) said: > > >>SCTP in KAME is complete, stable and fully supported. >>It is mainly developed by the SCTP RFC author, Randall Stewart. > > > KAME Project haven't received SCTP-related bug report so much, and I > think it's due to a lack of testers, SCTP-API standard, and SCTP-ready > applications. > #Sometimes KAME SNAP compilation fails in SCTP and non-SCTP > #application fails in compilation due to a change by SCTP. So it's > #difficult to conclude that SCTP is already stable... > > So I'm not still sure if SCTP in KAME is complete and stable enough to > merge into -current. (If someone can contribute to this kind of > evaluation, it's quite appreciated, of course!) > > Thanks, > ---- > SUZUKI, Shinsuke @ KAME Project > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --------------ms010006070805020405040504 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII7TCC AtEwggI6oAMCAQICAwvwrTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UE ChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNv bmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDQwMzE3MjE1NjMzWhcNMDUwMzE3MjE1NjMz WjBEMR8wHQYDVQQDExZUaGF3dGUgRnJlZW1haWwgTWVtYmVyMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJw ZXRlci5sZWlAaWVlZS5vcmcwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDX4PR3 QP+rgEBZtv1Q4YhKjRXUZQSk+9xNzesbK7pyirmUxKnm209ZGibDUAb/yC0ghvl3GbvNv/72 cyfC7JVjiABrDxY19L9mRGLKzjlK/bgBPY8SIu4blM/RtyabN4CdYk24LoGPHuLLkJIvvvQR LG0IJIfP8zvoHy0UGzyXOM/S4msxF1zDpBu7lYMe4Dpu5O9uaE2j1G/jswVmO2KMyQmffOGx 0Mw18tiGNMWkjMAwSJnXO2VSHzvh+I3OM71ReFo9ET2TtiXzqdDM5z0/LTsIyy1vP4Ib3Co9 xZNTe6JqVk2BsH7EZKPxi+oD7f/HctNWTZk0sesgba7D97jLAgMBAAGjLzAtMB0GA1UdEQQW MBSBEnBldGVyLmxlaUBpZWVlLm9yZzAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GB AB86WuVOs/pHjC4SPdbKb+obiQZVqR813FD3JcW+stkaZQHTPHoln/SYRd3TZcZIXageyme6 f5Gl3lOsamSUrtkov5u6B0vvtuDuMQH7deh1ARTQfC+R3hv29vVQ+uSPlLo/AGWaPcW030NW Bp96xBIESmHBMWGuYWkxMDHII/R+MIIC0TCCAjqgAwIBAgIDC/CtMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUA MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQu MSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQTAeFw0wNDAz MTcyMTU2MzNaFw0wNTAzMTcyMTU2MzNaMEQxHzAdBgNVBAMTFlRoYXd0ZSBGcmVlbWFpbCBN ZW1iZXIxITAfBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEnBldGVyLmxlaUBpZWVlLm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANfg9HdA/6uAQFm2/VDhiEqNFdRlBKT73E3N6xsrunKKuZTE qebbT1kaJsNQBv/ILSCG+XcZu82//vZzJ8LslWOIAGsPFjX0v2ZEYsrOOUr9uAE9jxIi7huU z9G3Jps3gJ1iTbgugY8e4suQki++9BEsbQgkh8/zO+gfLRQbPJc4z9LiazEXXMOkG7uVgx7g Om7k725oTaPUb+OzBWY7YozJCZ984bHQzDXy2IY0xaSMwDBImdc7ZVIfO+H4jc4zvVF4Wj0R PZO2JfOp0MznPT8tOwjLLW8/ghvcKj3Fk1N7ompWTYGwfsRko/GL6gPt/8dy01ZNmTSx6yBt rsP3uMsCAwEAAaMvMC0wHQYDVR0RBBYwFIEScGV0ZXIubGVpQGllZWUub3JnMAwGA1UdEwEB /wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQADgYEAHzpa5U6z+keMLhI91spv6huJBlWpHzXcUPclxb6y 2RplAdM8eiWf9JhF3dNlxkhdqB7KZ7p/kaXeU6xqZJSu2Si/m7oHS++24O4xAft16HUBFNB8 L5HeG/b29VD65I+Uuj8AZZo9xbTfQ1YGn3rEEgRKYcExYa5haTEwMcgj9H4wggM/MIICqKAD AgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVy biBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5n MSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtU aGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZy ZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1OTU5WjBiMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoG A1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHy v1HOAdTlUAow1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/EfkTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsY Pge/QIACZNenprufZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0T AQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADBDBgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20v VGhhd3RlUGVyc29uYWxGcmVlbWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQe MBwxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVMYWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD 6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7CF6FDlpSdf0whuPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZ GwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcljd2pnDmOjCBPZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC 3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDOzCCAzcCAQEwaTBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMc VGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFs IEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECAwvwrTAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBpzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMx CwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0wNDEwMjMwMDU4MzJaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJ BDEWBBRrk39gpoOpWqYdY1tVvISJ5jw1uzBSBgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMH MA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIB KDB4BgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxazBpMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29u c3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwg SXNzdWluZyBDQQIDC/CtMHoGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMWugaTBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMG A1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBl cnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECAwvwrTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQA3fGlS sskhvbOgczo64RIPkpGP/te8inW9boQ3wlQf6O7hRV/6ooAfpRxdfBEo4TR4/SnMuY9ExN3N 3MpC6TBk0PPs+KEhVY81I8AYRgxcRbswHvZKrgnTWwuw2jArld+sY/mwdiWQUcfn5ALkR5Wl i/TqEN5J0bvK4tlBUxhWjf3OD+oG90qlJ73VCdPI4r3AbAQC82ECQCy48LsdRs+SZVpwbn0k JeGivu8inV76Rvbq6yAHOFm+ADzEpogpDV1QFKlWmafRhdIpKxrqn1mRAREdwKGo4D2RizyI zpNpY6glpC86jck8MGp2b021TV9Je/VT4UyaPmWaTf/sM0pRAAAAAAAA --------------ms010006070805020405040504--