From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 13 08:18:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12926 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:18:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12919 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA35754; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:18:04 -0800 (PST) To: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa cc: Garrett Wollman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAO Integration? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:15:51 +0900." <199812130315.MAA09045@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:18:03 -0800 Message-ID: <35750.913565883@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Please don't waste your time. This code will never be in FreeBSD. > > Garrett, What do you want to say? Do you want to battle? Ummm. I do not think that this conversation is going in productive directions, and there are certainly many users who would much rather see anything at all related to cardbus be productive. No one person in core is really empowered to say that something will "never" be in FreeBSD unless that something defies all common sense, like moving the X server into the kernel. :) Like most things in FreeBSD, I suspect that "success" in this area will come to whichever approach manages to provide reasonable functionality and win user acclamation. Sometimes that's a function of raw technical merit and sometimes it's the fact that it Just Works where none of the more technically meritorious solutions are doing the job. I'm interested to see what both groups produce and even more interested to see how the users judge their work. That, far more than any core team member's possibly hasty pronouncement, is going to determine the final outcome here. Better that everyone involved spend more time worrying about their code than on "battling" in email. :) - Jordan outcome of all this. So > > -- > NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa > y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp > nakagawa@jp.FreeBSD.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message