From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Nov 1 14:26:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from copper.americanisp.net (copper.americanisp.net [208.244.174.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB43337B4CF for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28758 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 22:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO oxygen.americanisp.net) (208.244.174.10) by copper.americanisp.net with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 22:26:07 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:26:10 -0700 (MST) From: Peter To: Bob Martin Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About introducing newbies to FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3A009637.9491FE09@inu.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think the FBSD install is a good as just about any. The only thing that Linux intalls have going for them is they are GUI/X installs with a mouse and not keyboards. I for one found the FBSD install easy (4.0-R cd), it was confusing at times when I hit [return] instead of space, but otherwise FBSD install is piece of cake to anyone that knows what a partition is. I for one do think that RH 6.1 install is easier for newbies then the FBSD install only for the reason that is it point and click, otherwise FBSD and RH install on the same level. --- www.nul.cjb.net --- The Power to Crash! --- www.FreeBSD.org --- The Power to Serve! On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Bob Martin wrote: > Micke Josefsson wrote: > > > > On freebsd-questions there is now a thread 'Beginners with bsd'. As some of it > > has a bearing on advocacy and I have recent experience of this perhaps you will > > be interested. > > ---> snip <---- > > > Do you have any comments on this? I'd love to hear them. > > > > Cheers, > > /Micke > > > > ---------------------------------- > > Michael Josefsson, MSEE > > mj@isy.liu.se > > > > This message was sent by XFMail > > running on FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE > > ---------------------------------- > > I think the context of the "newbie" is the real issue here. Years ago I > watched a friend, with tons of Apple (NOT MacIntosh) experience give up > on an install of Win95. I have never met an Irix, SCO, DEC Unix, or > Solaris admin that had trouble installing xBSD, but have seen members of > that same group fight with installs of both Linux and NT. FreeBSD > "inherited" it's installation concept from BSD, which in turn, was based > on AT&T Unix. So there is a similarity in the way Unices derived from > that environment behave. > > Since most of our new users come to us from either Windows or Linux, we > need an installation program that is a lot more like the ones that > they've used in the past. I've often wondered how many users we loose > while they are trying to load the OS. What I would really like to see is > a FreeBSD installer on par with the UnixWare 7 or Tru64 5.0 installers. > (A clone of SCO Admin would be nice too!) Failing that, we probably need > something that looks more like a Linux installer, or a really good > rosetta stone. > > -- > Bob Martin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message