From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 16 22:16:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.he.net (neptune.he.net [216.218.166.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3994D37B407 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.52.155.210] (may be forged)) by neptune.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA07344 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:16:40 -0700 Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f7H5H5e10312; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:17:05 +0800 (+0800) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:17:04 +0800 From: Michael Robinson To: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux JDK on FreeBSD (was Re: Alpha JDK 1.2.2 JPDA extension 1) Message-ID: <20010817131704.B10288@elephant.netrinsics.com> References: <200008030637.OAA00807@netrinsics.com> <200008031443.IAA29638@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200008031443.IAA29638@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:43:00AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I thought this was interesting news, particularly in light of the quote below: SAN FRANCISCO -- Developers using Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Java programming language will outnumber those using the C/C++ languages by next year, the findings of a series of studies conducted by Evans Data Corp. and released late Wednesday show. Presenting the firm's research findings at IBM's Solutions technical developers conference here on Wednesday afternoon, Janel Garvin, vice president of research at Evans, said that more than half of North American developers use Java today, with that number expected to rise by 10 percent next year. The research also shows that Java usage has been rising at the expense of Visual Basic and C/C++. "This means that, for the first time, more North American developers will be using Java than Visual Basic or C/C++ next year," Garvin said. "Java usage is even stronger outside North America, with almost 60 percent of developers expecting to spend some part of their programming time using Java." -- http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2804967,00.html On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 08:43:00AM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > However, methinks you're a wee bit over the top with Java. Java is not > *nearly* as big as it was a couple years back. Sun screwed the pooch > with it's licensing issue, and Java 1.3 is still not supported well on > most platforms. Heck, for that matter, only *two* platforms have a > usable/stable JDK1.3 platform (and Linux isn't one of them, although it > has a 'beta' quality release). > > Java is but one *minor* piece of the puzzle, which you tend to focus on > since it's your job. (And, in case you're wondering, I lead the team in > the JDK1.1 port from 1.1.4 and have been making my living as a Java > programmer for nearly 5 years now, since the JDK1.0 days). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message