From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Mar 18 18:20:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5397FAD53A9 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (grunt.madpilot.net [78.47.145.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 137261ECA for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3qRYRT11Zkzb4F for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:20:05 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=madpilot.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :mime-version:user-agent:date:date:message-id:from:from :references:subject:subject:received:received; s=mail; t= 1458325203; x=1460139604; bh=KR/r1z0IAQ6oFx1LGgMbSeqnClBN2U0O/Em Gc0Ch7aA=; b=GV8BGXoNbTqgFcbCt2sDDySDHUUzLew0M+1OrQY5Z3Ivf0ugybS tECZI2ENVTQLmcdbMy3B+b5D4x/5QE0UdID73qhqv6l/2nugw68L/CTmrmPIa0ZU 7arbnSiYe/8STfKpMcVWv7omXyKolxWe6vEhUvmIEEl+6z6QQryPnndI= Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7SiodgWAVvMW for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:20:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from marvin.madpilot.net (micro.madpilot.net [88.149.173.206]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:20:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: boot loaders got fatter in the last few days To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <56EC2DD3.6050803@madpilot.net> <184a723793384094ded3c6037dd19529@mail.yourbox.net> <56EC400E.5030207@madpilot.net> <56EC437F.7060407@freebsd.org> From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: <56EC46D3.10807@madpilot.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:20:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56EC437F.7060407@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:20:08 -0000 On 03/18/16 19:05, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2016-03-18 13:51, Guido Falsi wrote: >> On 03/18/16 17:54, José Pérez wrote: >>> Hi Guido, >>> maybe it's because of this: >>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=296963 >>> >> >> I see. >> >> There is a problem with this though, we have howtos suggesting 64K for >> the size of the freebsd-boot gpt partition: >> >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/RAIDZ1 >> >> now that size isn't sufficient anymore. We should at least update these >> information soon. >> >> Also repartitioning could be problematic in certain scenarios. I think >> this change should be at least published in UPDATING and maybe also in >> the future release notes for 11.0. >> >> Personally I'll find a way of reorganizing my disks to fit this change, >> but it's something that could byte users. >> > > Those old bits of the wiki should be burned with fire. The one you link > to is from 2009 and is full of bad advice, and only covers how to > install FreeBSD 8.x I agree with you, having installed this one system following such advice and having discovered also other problems. Just yesterday I installed a ZFS system (using UEFI) straight from an head snapshot and it did everything perfect, so I'm quite happy about how things evolved. What I was trying to express is that, just like me, other people could get bitten by this change. Too me it's just an annoyance of shuffling partitions around a little, but we should at least have a small warning for the forthcoming release. -- Guido Falsi