From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 7 08:53:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE89106566B; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458DE8FC16; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018BD65FC; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:53:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C341E832F; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:53:46 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <201208222337.q7MNbORo017642@svn.freebsd.org> <5043E449.8050005@FreeBSD.org> <20120904220126.GA85339@dragon.NUXI.org> <50468326.8070009@FreeBSD.org> <20120906164514.GA14757@dragon.NUXI.org> <867gs7qcsl.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20120906184400.GF13179@dragon.NUXI.org> <86lignot6a.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20120906200325.GA17159@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 10:53:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20120906200325.GA17159@dragon.NUXI.org> (David O'Brien's message of "Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:03:25 -0700") Message-ID: <86harap61x.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Arthur Mesh , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton , freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.org, Mark Murray Subject: Re: svn commit: r239598 - head/etc/rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:53:48 -0000 David O'Brien writes: > I am not sure what you are arguing. Are you asking for 'kenv' to be > removed from better_than_nothing() ? Or are you just making sure folks > are aware it is not a source of strong entropy? I am arguing against your claim that kenv is better than ps. Even if it does vary from machine to machine, it is constant across reboots on the same machine. > We already have an invocation of 'ps'. Please suggest a *different* > command invocation. ps -axo majflt,minflt,nivcsw,nvcsw DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no