From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 20:43:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD22810656B3 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erob@gthcfoundation.org) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ACA8FC28 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:43:16 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([184.162.50.38]) by VL-MR-MRZ20.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0LHN00BB6LJLF5E0@VL-MR-MRZ20.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:42:57 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4D73F1D2.4000208@gthcfoundation.org> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:42:58 -0500 From: Etienne Robillard Organization: Green Tea Hackers Club User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Icedove/3.0.11 To: Hans Petter Selasky References: <4D73BB23.8020806@gthcfoundation.org> <201103061758.47368.hselasky@c2i.net> <4D73C223.8040009@gthcfoundation.org> <201103061836.39151.hselasky@c2i.net> In-reply-to: <201103061836.39151.hselasky@c2i.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can somebody explains OFDM in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erob@gthcfoundation.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 20:43:16 -0000 On 06/03/11 12:36 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On Sunday 06 March 2011 18:19:31 Etienne Robillard wrote: > >> On 06/03/11 11:58 AM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: >> > >> yes, the difference with 'software OFDM' and hardware OFDM - as in >> run(4) - is the latter >> exploits 'objects' and 'peoples' as subcarriers units with >> "bi-directional data" when >> software OFDM could be used to securely convert the raw ELF/VLF energy >> input to >> a external server (the Power Server).. >> >> could then this not require a security advisory for hardware OFDM devices >> circulating in the wild to boost 802.11 'speeds' and 'ranges' ? >> > Hi Etienne, > > I think you are reading too much into too little and that further discussion > into the details you suggest is not appropriate for this list. I believe that > developers on the -current list are serious people, wanting to remove problems > in this world rather than create them. Exploits are possible when the > developers are not given enough time to research good solutions. Maybe you > want to support FreeBSD developers by donating some money via the FreeBSD > foundation, so that we can do a better job, removing your fears of software > exploits in interaction with humans :-) > > --HPS > > BTW: Our slogan is "The power to serve" and not "the power server" :-) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > X-UID: 11883 > Status: > X-Keywords: > Content-Length: 0 > > I've put a wiki page for anyone interested in the topic of building a OFDM-based kernel here: https://gthc.org/wiki/FreeBSD/OFDM_Kernel and I still think hardware OFDM is inherently insecure as-is in FreeBSD even if not everyone seems to agree or willing to debate the idea with strong arguments to prove the contrary. -- Etienne Robillard Company: Green Tea Hackers Club Occupation: Software Developer (and CEO) E-mail: erob@gthcfoundation.org Work phone: 450-936-2123 Website (Company): https://gthc.org/ Website (Blog): https://gthc.org/blog/ PGP public key fingerprint: F2A9 32EA 8E7C 460F 1728 A1A7 649C 7F17 A086 DDEC During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. -- John F. Kennedy