From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 20 10:14:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3551065675; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467D88FC22; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so7505627bkv.13 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:14:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+93YOgJJZH15gN8Wap8qHET184fPsHUqO+0NR7yeV2k=; b=ws/FZucuxsijQMe8ol1Qnh0kcFav5W35taG1I9r9pG7XBM2U4s86DSHengKWeWZ9jA Hg5dGYkfRB8jwlHVcA6THzZWgpejT7FWNCbTuk9TSnGMcAB5xnOdfKFGOs1cric9xOLa g/GWc243VzdMZ8+YArgAcN6penQ3RNIeTpgl/gCPmKWX3wcnttZXAN5DYOC5l2/vysxL yPlLUL7axYNu8r39qodzd+qy/eONwvkilh4RiqxnJV7wiQjXZj7HZO4+cWFfSnmCtzux 4d4zSefW8SwTWeXSNwFsWIYc4Nt00dUslpveWM484JzoGCEHGx2ZDevHfTnbZgQOXoRb UY2w== Received: by 10.205.134.6 with SMTP id ia6mr9966764bkc.51.1340187241227; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from green.tandem.local (utwig.xim.bz. [91.216.237.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gm18sm26971879bkc.7.2012.06.20.03.13.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE1A265.1030107@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:13:57 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120605 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20120615124849.GI96212@ass.kameli.org> <20120618081140.GK96212@ass.kameli.org> <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <20120620085938.GL96212@ass.kameli.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:50:33 +0000 Cc: Doug Barton , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Richard Yao , Vincent Hoffman , Nathan Whitehorn , claudiu vasadi , Outback Dingo , openrc@gentoo.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Peltom=E4ki?= Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:14:03 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Personally I think that the kernel boot time is the killer here and >> the work should go there and second on the rc system. > exactly what i wrote. rc.d subsystem is quick, and anyway in special > cases just delete in and write all needed startup in /etc/rc > > i assume it is embedded system - in which boot time is very important. > >> PS: nothing wrong in having an OS that boots faster, performs better >> is more stable than others :). This is something I would like >> to see as an improvement. Wouldn't you ? > of course i do! > > Do you have USB in that system? The problem is deeper, I'm using minimalized kernel without USB and greatest hang is 3 or so seconds after "Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec" just before ada0 appears. And I have already tried modularized ada - results are the same. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow.