From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 1 13:13:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03318 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:13:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03308 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07257; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:43:12 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA07222; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:43:12 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980302074311.09203@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:43:11 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: allen campbell , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbies mailing list References: <199803010927.CAA04411@const.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199803010927.CAA04411@const.>; from allen campbell on Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 02:27:14AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 2:27:14 -0700, allen campbell wrote: > >> Real Hackers never get defensive. > > This needs to be in a FAQ somewhere (if it isn't already.) Maybe > even an RFC. Another case of the missed smiley? >> Right. Of course, giving up FreeBSD because they think it's too hard >> might be the right choice. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean >> people aren't out to get you. > > I have since configured sendmail with a proper hostname and to > masquerade as my ISP for proper return addresses (among other > things), and learned how to use fetchmail, mail(1), fmt and ispell. > Some of us _do_ pay attention, Greg. :) Glad to see it :-) >> What do you others think? > > I think you and Sue are trying to solve different problems. Sue > wants a place where the poster has the right to not feel intimidated > while posting thoughtful questions. You want users to read the > docs, follow the conventions and ask worthwhile questions. I think you're missing the point. Sue and I are pretty much in sync, but of course there are a number of issues that this kind of group could address. > I think -newbies will have a very bad signal to noise ratio, but > the noise in newbies will be noise that didn't end up somewhere > else. Possibly. It was one of my concerns, but the only way we can be sure is to try it out. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message