From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 11:43:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F43F1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953ED8FC14 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so1032350wer.13 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:43:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GgQMASxxqkN2oSEWHhXsjGtv532i85G/htN/+IXuGRw=; b=QMsy2z7NofCfeCtu9Ipw/lLj5Im5dncuyz0z2q8SZWJunmPoahkdEjGH8jw+cbdabb THne4bbJ+Vpa1Lj60bIwwNXJaxnwDgEF70qDTiiC4tWTLXMPk3u+0Gn8u3zk3CGxRxHd oPQqJpmz9pIxe9NKbIIHGkDv5O3kF2vLoYmYY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=GgQMASxxqkN2oSEWHhXsjGtv532i85G/htN/+IXuGRw=; b=cWDoIHou/xS/ZT9hwctCBnAnuNYqtoWuqs9AuSUMGLevVfaZSoV1xOuDCPmq+qLyi+ Vhw+85Toje/Kjve63VTEKVvkcmf2/NhTsclM3WFjuqxek8Yq6E0faoUZviL58osxKogn pFLJvu78eD646i8bWnrTksBAC4+NJt30q7cwPhxoIDVQ/Z2NqwEiIUMLL1/+VNFLVWKQ 07QR4E5lxe0nJdpDCGTd4j88cMmsfbbLFyuN/FFr/DiZ24/HFNq9B1H5wqEa5B4KTQOz aJfafzLbgK0kJDh5hCq2rr9hfjAstjD7gd6AYrEMktc7fO5dHTEoQzDZlxhzemqpRL/m 5sDw== Received: by 10.180.91.165 with SMTP id cf5mr4092623wib.2.1333626225780; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:43:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.63.4 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 04:43:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F7CA124.8080401@freebsd.org> References: <4F775DF5.1020704@rawbw.com> <201204020831.09253.jhb@freebsd.org> <4F79D63E.7010200@rawbw.com> <201204021312.36568.jhb@freebsd.org> <4F7BDF06.8000104@freebsd.org> <4F7CA124.8080401@freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:43:15 -0400 Message-ID: To: Julian Elischer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkAzrJgIwbGohtS5hJ/q1KNYihbb28fDlIPahJXmi/xhhAFqBRdbLl7Rn1j18bSW1UOuE+B Cc: Yuri , hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there any modern alternative to pstack? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:43:48 -0000 On 4 April 2012 15:29, Julian Elischer wrote: > but we do add patches to make things work on FreeBSD. We add patches to make ports... ... work on FreeBSD ... conform to FreeBSD hier (to an extent) ... work with alternate compilers, PREFIX, etc. We shouldn't add patches which "continue development". In all cases the goal should be to upstream the patch ASAP. If there is no active upstream and the patch does more than the above that is a sign that someone needs to be willing to become the upstream maintainer first. -- Eitan Adler