From owner-freebsd-libh Thu Apr 4 21:19:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-libh@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8678C37B405 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1734CBD06 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12282 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:19:49 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g355K8k32160; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.org Subject: libh learning curve, etc. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 04 Apr 2002 21:20:07 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Your project seems very important and I thought I'd investigate to see if I wanted to try to help out. But ya'll sure haven't done much to encourage people to help. (And if you do want to discourage people, you ought to be up front about it so people don't waste time finding out the hard way.) I say that for these reasons, mostly having to do with the web page at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/libh.html: -- There are no requirements, specifications, or design documents, etc, other than the old JKH memo, so one expects to have to Read the Source, but nowhere does it say how to find it short of CVS which I (and many others) don't know how to run beyond cvsupping the main repo. -- The port doesn't work (maybe because my ports are a month old). I see that this password problem was reported a couple of weeks ago. -- The CVSWEB tool at freebsd.org has only a few, uninteresting libh files. -- The mailing list archives are mostly mind-numbing commit messages. You probably ought to look at some other Project home pages and borrow a few ideas. I'll probably try the port occasionally and take a look, but as important as I feel your project is, I can't get very enthusiastic for a project which uses QPL/LGPL libraries, TVision with no apparent license (a disclaimer is all I could find), and TCL which few care to learn. But then I'm a C/C++ beginner so you wouldn't get much out of me anyway, beyond some documentation and test reports. I'll probably stick with the -doc project and my own programming exercises. I hope you'll take this as constructive critism; it wasn't meant to hurt feelings, though it probably will. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-libh" in the body of the message