From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 14 02:17:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA29310 for alpha-outgoing; Wed, 14 May 1997 02:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.DIALix.COM (spinner.dialix.com [192.203.228.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29305 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.DIALix.COM (localhost.dialix.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.DIALix.COM with ESMTP id RAA09023; Wed, 14 May 1997 17:16:33 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199705140916.RAA09023@spinner.DIALix.COM> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Curt Sampson cc: John Polstra , Warner Losh , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha questions.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 May 1997 01:31:46 MST." Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:16:32 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Curt Sampson wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 1997, Peter Wemm wrote: > > > John Polstra wrote: > > > > : ... NetBSD-current is using ELF on > > > > : the Alpha now. > > > > > > FWIW, they're using a hacked-up version of my ElfKit dynamic linker. > > > > I saw this.. Have you had a look at what they've done? Is it enough to > > call "complete"? > > What do you mean by `complete'? Both the alpha and the pmax ports > are completely ELF-based, and I use the former as my main server > at home. PowerPC also uses ELF, and there's been a bit of work on > an m68k version, I understand. > > What does FreeBSD need here that NetBSD doesn't? Relax, it was just a question... I just wanted to know if it was complete (ie: fully functional with no missing parts, eg, 'ar' support). Does it use elf-style shared libray versioning (ie: symlinks and internal names) or does it use a runtime ld.so.cache major.minor[.micro] a.out style system? The rtld that John released with ElfKit only supported the elf-style DT_SONAME shared library system. I realise this is a touchy subject with the person from the "other BSD" camp doing what was done with Chris's elf work at cygnus. Cheers, -Peter