From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Apr 28 19:39: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A83314FF1 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrad@apple.com) Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15156 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:36:50 -0700 Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:36:37 -0700 Received: from [17.202.43.185] (wa.apple.com [17.202.43.185]) by scv1.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25330; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:36:35 -0700 X-Sender: conrad@mail.apple.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904290159.SAA33648@scv3.apple.com> References: "Your message of Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:36:14 MDT." <199904281736.LAA15179@harmony.village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:36:33 -0700 To: wsanchez@apple.com, hackers@freebsd.org From: Conrad Minshall Subject: Re: Adding desktop support Cc: warner.c@apple.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 6:59 PM -0700 4/28/99, Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > Hold on there... We ain't dropping the Mac OS thing. We're using the >NeXT bundle strategy in Mac OS X Server, because there we use UFS. Mac OS >X will have HFS+ which gives us named attributes on any file, and we'll >probably make heavy use of that, as before. Both work pretty well. I do >think the NeXT thing suits BSD a lot better, because it fits the Unix >model nicely, and you don't have HFS+ support (yet). Certainly you can't >count on everyone using HFS+. BTW "named attributes" (aka named forks, aka named streams, etc) are not only in HFS+. They are in UDF, in NTFS, and in the current NFS V4 draft. So on my wish-list is a VFS layer to transparently provide them over UFS. -- Conrad Minshall ... conrad@apple.com ... 408 974-2749 Apple Computer ... Mac OS X Core Operating Systems ... Filesystems & Kernel Alternative email address: rad@acm.org. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message