From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 08:11:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9D2106566C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448218FC21 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8I8AtXI044807; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:10:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q8I8AsIX044804; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:10:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:10:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lorenzo Cogotti In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <63507.1347905101@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:10:55 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:11:01 -0000 > make a GUI application for FreeBSD? You are asking yourself what desktop > environment will work for sure on FreeBSD? There you have it, Blah DE > works just well and is perfectly documented." use any X toolking you want (well almost, i recommend avoiding Qt) and use it properly without assuming any "desktop environment" running and your program will work just fine. What's a problem? No standard for "toolbar widgets"? Really it's completely unimportant thing for anyone treating computer as something more than a toy.