From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 9 22:23:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE101065670; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 22:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay0.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [178.250.72.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1E48FC14; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 22:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (unknown [78.86.207.85]) by relay0.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA10B57012; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:23:54 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: <863950mw53.fsf@ds4.des.no> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:23:05 +0100 Message-Id: <86885338-37D1-47FE-8DC6-45E9B4B806D7@exonetric.com> References: <4FF2E00E.2030502@FreeBSD.org> <86bojxow6x.fsf@ds4.des.no> <89AB703D-E075-4AAC-AC1B-B358CC4E4E7F@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4FF8C3A1.9080805@FreeBSD.org> <20472.51031.308284.775990@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FF8C890.9030408@FreeBSD.org> <4FFA7174.7050604@FreeBSD.org> <4FFA7980.4000707@FreeBSD.org> <4FFB46A4.5050504@FreeBSD.org> <1E29121E-62B1-4929-BB7B-4FCA5D893F51@exonetric.com> <86a9z8mxa1.fsf@ds4.des.no> <8D942592-3662-4FBA-BA61-2A010452BF70@exonetric.com> <863950mw53.fsf@ds4.des.no> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , Doug Barton , Avleen Vig , Garrett Wollman , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Replacing BIND with unbound X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 22:23:08 -0000 On 9 Jul 2012, at 23:01, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Mark Blackman writes: >> I never use '-t' with dig. drill *told* me I should use '-t' then >> completely failed to acknowledge I had done so. >>=20 >> Marks-Macbook% drill -t www.google.com >> [...] >> ;; WARNING: The answer packet was truncated; you might want to >> ;; query again with TCP (-t argument), or EDNS0 (-b for buffer size) >=20 > So you got a truncated response and used -t, it didn't help, and drill > printed the boilerplate warning message that it always prints when it > gets a truncated response. I don't know about you, but I would call > that a cosmetic nit. >=20 > Unless, of course, you had tcpdump running while you did this and it > turns out that drill sent a UDP request in spite of -t? It works fine > (i.e. it uses UDP by default, and TCP when asked to) for me. Yes, I worked out it was boilerplate for the general condition. A = cosmetic nit that makes me do a double-take on my first usage strikes me as=20 rough around the edges. YMMV. drill certainly looks like a drop-in=20 replacement for the common case as you suggest. But if it's not called 'dig' and I've never heard of 'drill', I'm unlikely to reach for = 'drill', hence the alias suggestion. I *had* never heard of 'drill' until this thread came up. > FWIW, the reply I got was not truncated. Perhaps there is a = transparent > DNS proxy somewhere between you and 178.250.72.130 - quite common with > broadband CPE. I have detected there is some kind of stealth DNS interception at work in the past, although I think it's more central than the CPE. Mark=