From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jun 18 14:38:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20101 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:38:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luomat.peak.org (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20082 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 14:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luomat@luomat.peak.org) Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) id RAA04628; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806182138.RAA04628@luomat.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 17:38:36 -0400 To: Brian Tao Subject: Re: ``Home of the Brave, Land of the FreeBSD'' cc: FREEBSD-CHAT References: Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Even though I'm not a huge Apple fan anymore, it's nice to see > them come back around like this. :) I've been a NeXTaholic since 1991 (I feel like I should have started this with "Hello my name is Tim and I've been a NeXTaholic since 1991") Andrew Stone (who wrote the article with the Open-/Free- BSD quote is a longtime NeXTStep developer who has written a ton of great software (http://www.stone.com). I had a very interesting discussion the other day with another NeXTer. Apple is dropping Intel support for Rhapsody, which I think is probably the worse decision I've ever heard (the rationale being that people will now buy Apple hardware and Apple will make more $$ from that). That's the main reason I'm now getting interested in FreeBSD. I don't have a ton of money to be throwing around for an OS+new hardware (esp Mac hardware which has always been pricey). Anyway, the interesting discussion centered around the fact that Rhapsody will be based on BSD4.4 (whereas NeXTstep was 4.3-based). The problem is that there won't be source code, and with a Unix OS in today's Internet, you need either 1) fast vendor patches to security holes in commercial Unixes or 2) source code to the OS. My friend was saying that Apple doesn't care that much about the underlying OS and wouldn't it be cool if they picked a Free *nix to develop their GUI, etc around. I thought it was a very cool idea.... despite the fact that it will never happen. TjL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message