From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 13 20:17:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AF33ABD3F for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BSHsv3Wzfz3XLV for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Subject: Re: OT: Dealing with a hosting company with it's head up it's rear end From: "@lbutlr" In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 14:17:05 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3652.0.5.2.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BSHsv3Wzfz3XLV X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.05 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.72)[-0.724]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.001]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.08)[0.079]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[65.121.55.42:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:17:08 -0000 >> I kind of understand RDP (but we have had bad luck with VNC on the = same >> hosting provider in the past so we prefer RDP), but SSH!?!?!?=E2=81=89=EF= =B8=8F! RDP I not secure and not securable, so banning it is perfectly = legitimate. Banning ssh exposes them as know-nothings. Find a better host. >> So how do we/the client tell the hosting company they are full of = sh*t By denying them the money they are relying on to run their business. >> (the client has a 3 year contract with a pay in full to break clause = with >> them which would be over $100k to break) They are not provided adequate service. If your client signed a contract = that binds them regardless of the incompetence pf failures of the host, = then your client is also inept. --=20 Worlds of belief, she [Susan] thought. Just like oysters. A little piece of shit gets in and then a pearl grows around it. --Hogfather