From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 21 20:07:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3D7D84; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-x236.google.com (mail-qa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C6842266; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j15so2759445qaq.6 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:07:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=liBR6BBiCOwhHyD4a4JIH88S7bsve0z35P3dcZn7Zlk=; b=IPFsaUTtJrlKvX/GllNZiufkwB5lAnIiiiiXipcBvuXTcJzDWSGPJcMWliAYJJ/XGr daLQqEnAdSIQ+Jvp/E1qM4qYFr8s1EmpBSLpCROAvRpNFMQQtiYcdwsq0Hg2jWa9dcS9 eDXhawH35Jg1Ma2CZFItfmGmUZ/0BuSEr+AJ0BIamnmaIuFFvNMdTQuMe885j1CbHJEj S+jm62LlM1ENH5ReTm0sfTNLNWSi8ZZkcVhs2WvSggcXlnvQiRcpSDrVCPSSBtkFqer4 z2pLQYaKV3wkI5/VEb0sRLzaT4cQCnvCKjiPWpn+NcUfbUHQ5Jem+MN6JP5rzsPl5hti ZqBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.167.206 with SMTP id r14mr25498788qay.4.1382386061003; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.207.66 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:07:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5265878B.1050809@yandex.ru> References: <81.4D.19454.84022625@cdptpa-oedge03> <5265878B.1050809@yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:07:40 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 85ufjsxvpXzP8yAO0zoo3UeF6tY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator From: Adrian Chadd To: "Andrey V. Elsukov" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Thomas Mueller , "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:07:42 -0000 On 21 October 2013 12:59, Andrey V. Elsukov wrote: > On 19.10.2013 10:01, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > I too would like to see more effort writing new Ethernet and wifi > > drivers and porting from other operating systems. > > > > But I would like to keep the NDISulator/NDISwrapper as a fallback. > > > > There are still wifi adapters, Ethernet too, where there is no > > FreeBSD driver (AR9271 for instance), or the FreeBSD driver is > > buggy. > > I'm agree. While there are still some devices without native drivers, > but that work via NDISulator, we should keep it. > It's honestly about time that these were updated, fixed and/or ported to FreeBSD. So, I'm still going forward with the plan. I won't be killing it during the 10 lifecycle. -adrian