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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:30:35 -0600
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Dumb "Raw mode" CD copying question...
Message-ID:  <15026.52299.275005.172757@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.32.0103161702020.26609-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>
References:  <15025.33102.445388.10967@guru.mired.org> <Pine.BSF.4.32.0103161702020.26609-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>

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Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us> types:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it> types:
> > > BTW, cdrao enables me to copy all the tracks of an audio CD in a shot. I=
> > >
> > > have looked at the existing software in the ports; I seem to find out al=
> > > l
> > > kinds of manipulation programs ("rippers", "converters", etc.)
> >
> > cdrdao also works on other cds. I've not tried it on data cds, but
> > I use it to back up my PlayStation disks so they kids don't
> > destroy the originals. It winds up backing up two tracks.
> Erm, and these work without you having to put that special little chip
> in your playstation?  If so, was there any trick?  Did you do the copy
> in "raw" mode?

No, they don't work without hacking the playstation. I used --read-raw
on the CD.

> The only problem with raw mode is it takes a "special" (read as
> "el-cheapo", akin to a winmodem or winprinter) CD-writer to write
> them.  My rather nice Yamaha CRW8424S doesn't have a raw write mode, I
> don't think, because it actually has brains and implements cue sheets
> like most CD writers do.  The "good" CD writers handle calculating and
> writing the P and Q sub-channels for you, which is where a lot of that
> information is stored that you need to successfully copy
> "copy-protected" CDs.  Isn't it ironic that the cheapest of the CD
> writers will copy the copy-protected CDs?  I wonder what the people
> who come up with the copy protection schemes think of that.

They, of course, hate them. They hate the idea that people might
actually want to exercise their fair use rights to their
materials. The nasty thing about DMCA is that it makes doing things so
simply so you can exercise those rights illegal.

	<mike
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