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In-Reply-To: <9E1458A0-606A-42F5-A867-F6672D4CDEE9@yahoo.com> References: <9E1458A0-606A-42F5-A867-F6672D4CDEE9.ref@yahoo.com> <9E1458A0-606A-42F5-A867-F6672D4CDEE9@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 28.2 (amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) X-Vade-Verdict: clean X-Vade-Analysis-1: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedviedrledugdeiudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhf X-Vade-Analysis-2: ihhlvgemucfujgfpteevqfftpdftvefppdfgpfggqdftvefppdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucef X-Vade-Analysis-3: tddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpeggtgfgkfffhffvvefujghf X-Vade-Analysis-4: ofesthejredtredtvdenucfhrhhomheptfhosggvrhhtucfjuhhffhcuoehrohgsvghrthhhuhhffhes X-Vade-Analysis-5: rhgtnhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepheduiedvteehueejhffhudevhedthfeukeetudfh X-Vade-Analysis-6: keduveektedvgedvkeeuvddtnecukfhppedufedtrdeggedrudehuddrudehieenucevlhhushhtvghr X-Vade-Analysis-7: ufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpedufedtrdeggedrudehuddrudehiedphhgvlhhopehj X-Vade-Analysis-8: vghruhhsrghlvghmrdhlihhtthgvrhgrthhushdrohhrghdrlhhithhtvghrrghtuhhsrdhorhhgpdhm X-Vade-Analysis-9: rghilhhfrhhomheprhhosggvrhhthhhufhhfsehrtghnrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepmhgrrhhklhhm X-Vade-Analysis-10: iheshigrhhhoohdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopegtuhhrrhgvnhhtsehfrhgvvggsshgurdhorhhgpdhm X-Vade-Analysis-11: thgrhhhoshhtpehsmhhtphdtvddrrhgtnhdrvghmrghilhdqrghshhdurdhshihntgdrlhgrnhdpnhgs X-Vade-Analysis-12: pghrtghpthhtohepvddpihhspghnrgepthhruhgvpdgruhhthhgpuhhsvghrpehrohgsvghrthhhuhhf X-Vade-Analysis-13: fh X-Vade-Client: RCN X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:129.213.13.252/32]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31898, ipnet:129.213.8.0/21, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[129.213.13.252:from]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RKd3D3F7rz3Hq4 Mark Millard writes: > The material in 26.6.5 does not repeat all that, it is > more of a summary that is presented. > > There are also instructions in UPDATING (near the end) > and yet other instructions in Makefile (leading > comments). > > I've not done detailed comparisons of such in some > time, but they well not be exact matches. As I remember, > the UPDATING material was more explicit about various > cases/contexts and what was appropriate for them. > > It can be appropriate to review them all. 1) It would be really nice is someone would take a look and make sure these 100% non-contradictory. 2) If I can only use one of these, which one should I choose? I'm procrastinating on doing a najor update, and want to keep the long record of nothing going Horribly Wrong(tm). Respectfully, Robert Huff