Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:52:48 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@bellavista.cz> To: Duncan Anker <d.anker@au.darkbluesea.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail Message-ID: <20030113105248.GM1196@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> In-Reply-To: <1042414738.1458.6.camel@duncan.au.darkbluesea.com> References: <20030105134445.H96646-100000@dean.goepp.net> <447kdiz6f1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <1041897164.11871.21.camel@duncan.au.darkbluesea.com> <20030110130358.GN1196@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <1042414738.1458.6.camel@duncan.au.darkbluesea.com>
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# d.anker@au.darkbluesea.com / 2003-01-13 09:38:58 +1000:
> On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 23:03, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> > # d.anker@au.darkbluesea.com / 2003-01-07 09:52:44 +1000:
> > >
> > > um ... what's wrong with doing this in /etc/make.conf?
> > >
> > > NO_BIND = true
> > > NO_OPENSSL = true
> > > NO_SENDMAIL = true
> > >
> > > and so on.
> > >
> > > Seems to be exactly what you want to do
> >
> > No it's not.
> >
> > The issue is more complex: Sendmail + DJB's dnscache
> > + nameserver 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf + default means of
> > starting up the software = broken system:
>
> This sounds like a different issue - my suggestion was for how to avoid
> putting sendmail into the system when you build it.
not really a different issue. the OP wanted to be able to [not]
install Sendmail, Bind etc. during the initial system setup. that's
impossible ATM. plus, replacing part of the base with a port might
break your system.
Neither makes your suggestion "exactly what you want".
> Admittedly, after a default install it's already there and you have to
> go and remove it, so yes, there should be an installer option for it.
and yes, that's what the OP wanted.
> > 1) Sendmail gets started (/etc/rc.sendmail)
> > 2) Sendmail looks up it's name (queries 127.0.0.1:53)
> > 3) Sendmail gets upset
> > 4) dnscache gets started (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/000.svscan.sh)
> > 5) too late
>
> If you need to start sendmail after DJB dnscache, you can disable it in
> /etc/rc.conf and start it from a local script, no?
yes. that means you must do more than you said originally, and what
you said originally is not "exactly what you want".
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