Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:34:46 +1000 From: Antony Mawer <lists@mawer.org> To: Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch> Cc: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, Oliver Pinter <oliver.pntr@gmail.com>, Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-1?B?IkF1culsaWVuIE3pcuki?= <aurelien.mere@amc-os.com> Subject: Re: Common interface for sensors/health monitoring Message-ID: <ea2d4a5b0908231734t2b461256j8a77b0c660ace702@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <843B14C2-D6D0-4910-B1B4-C7A8CB37635D@msys.ch> References: <D3D19C706C2842389C87590424D0A8CB@kmlaptop> <6101e8c40908211917k69c82491w3cff00a527d14873@mail.gmail.com> <19e9a5dc0908212303j28a6913er604bfd06e7df81ec@mail.gmail.com> <2DC22872-96F5-4C0A-82E4-F9755A10E245@msys.ch> <20090822182923.000064e0@unknown> <C1C76364BD5341C887C0AEA906BB5763@kmlaptop> <20090823170849.00000fdb@unknown> <7306B4ED-D9AF-4946-9FCE-BD1CE7685AC2@msys.ch> <20090823182454.00006387@unknown> <843B14C2-D6D0-4910-B1B4-C7A8CB37635D@msys.ch>
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Marc Balmer<marc@msys.ch> wrote: > Am 23.08.2009 um 18:24 schrieb Alexander Leidinger: >> On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:13:42 +0200 Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch> wrote: >>> Am 23.08.2009 um 17:08 schrieb Alexander Leidinger: >>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:02:32 +0200 "Aur=E9lien M=E9r=E9" >>>> <aurelien.mere@amc-os.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm just afraid by reading your email that the situation doesn't >>>>> seem to have evolved since the discussion regarding the SoC, maybe >>>>> even more taboo, and that I'll have to keep writing my own >>>>> software and drivers to get the data I want in the future if I >>>>> want to get this data under FreeBSD.. Is it the case ? >>>> >>>> It is not "taboo", it is just that nobody wants to spend his spare >>>> time >>>> with something like this now. >>>> >>> >>> I hope people spend their time on thinking what was bad with the >>> sensor framework last time and improve on that, instead. >> >> Go and read in the archives about it, maybe you understand why >> there's not much motivation to spend spare time on such a topic. > > Everyone should have the right to come back with a subject, if work is pu= t > into it. =A0Or is the stanza that once there has been a heated discussion > about a topic, there is no possibility to come back to it, maybe making i= t > better a seccond time? =A0And no, I have no plans to do so... I am just a= bit > astonished about the attitude... I for one would be quite happy to contribute towards such an effort. I would much rather contribute towards a project-wide monitoring solution rather than continuing to extend/maintain my own ad-hoc monitoring scripts. I am sure many others are in a similar position... it seems crazy that we are all re-inventing the wheel instead of contributing to a common effort. Is there a summary (perhaps something suitable to go on the Project Ideas page) that outlines: - An outline of what such a system should provide - What it should NOT provide (ie. what would be "out of scope") - What lessons should be learned from the SoC effort (ie. both good points and what NOT to do) - Suggested starting points Maybe that would go a long way to ensuring anyone wanting to start such an effort without getting to the end and having their efforts rejected... Yes, bits of this can be found in the past mailing list posts, but it would nice to have an clear "official" summary of this so that any volunteer effort has the best chance of being accepted... -- Antony
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