From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 1 19:30:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0379916A419 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0BB413C48A for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mureninc@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so1876135wra for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/kBG5/91EXogYtgS5v8kRLJSfbBec/S7MyobJN05fR4=; b=mPoqJOLscX9yLUwgAWx5vqk29fHgk7dcK8wlexW/V8Z23XT/TzBDfckcbwc2WdHLg/qc6RrV4/NBnE5rn4lidHQhSbRFnRh+/7xLbsp6zyP3gXaE7dD3OgWSTvHqC5B64GpIdOX1BVgacXOvz+sW+OaFGx9fPm1NP4WtbZ7axA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NHKV9kWC9OL6CMiMPFo5hoVfKszXFqEPThKmx8ZsLjBenZgkPT4U5Q/n/glz9oNTFeEXF8SLwlvCndaxa3PeX9f2inqSUs1K+vLB8IEXFU4Qqq/zqcw4lQCh8cYk+Vk3WyDGXEqOXDZ1oJMxohBxNviNBz1rGZ9oya6YW3PKgzQ= Received: by 10.90.63.16 with SMTP id l16mr6041512aga.1191267028877; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.78.10 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:30:28 -0400 From: "Constantine A. Murenin" To: "Kevin Oberman" In-Reply-To: <20071001183728.A289D45010@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47012FC0.5020001@users.sf.net> <20071001183728.A289D45010@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, mato Subject: Re: GSoC2007: cnst-sensors.2007-09-13.patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:30:30 -0000 On 01/10/2007, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:34:56 +0200 > > From: mato > > > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > >> From: martinko > > >> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:35:44 +0200 > > >> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > >> > > >> Chuck Swiger wrote: > > >> > > >>> The threshold temperature varies depending on the exact part, but is > > >>> generally around 65 Celsius-- and is hot enough that you don't really > > >>> want to encounter it in normal operation, as it's a sign that cooling is > > >>> not adequate for the system to continue to operate safely at full > > >>> speed. Most of the Intel CPUs also include a second thermal circuit > > >>> called THERMTRIP which fires around 95 Celsius which will shut the CPU > > >>> down entirely to prevent a catastrophic failure. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> I've got Pentium-M at 2GHz and when fully loaded it heats up to 79 > > >> Celsius. Could it be OK or do I have a faulty laptop ? > > >> > > > > > > My Pentium-M 2GHz system will get well above 80C when doing big builds > > > and this is well below the defined PSV (94.5C) and CRT (99C) > > > levels. These things can run very hot and be perfectly happy. > > > > > > OTOH, it might be time to clean the heatsink in the machine. That can > > > hurt heat transfer as a machine gets older. > > > > > > FWIW, the spec on the Pentium-M 2GHZ system is 105C, so CRT at 99 looks > > > right. > > > > > > > Mine says: > > > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 105.0C > > hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 110.0C > > > > This is Asus W1N laptop. > > I'm not about to start checking spec sheets for people. They are all > on-line. I assume that the ASUS W1N is not in the same processor family > as the Pentium-M 735, but I have no idea what it is. I don't even know > if it is Intel, AMD or VIA. > > Looks like this one might require Kevlar pants if you put it on your > lap. Ouch! Of course, the external temperature of the unit will never > approach these temperatures. You are kindly forgetting about the recent battery incidents. ;) C.