From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 23 19:00:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13D16F16 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 19:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E508F1612 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 19:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id DAA47CB8CA0; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 128.135.70.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <65468.128.135.70.2.1429815636.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:00:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: ufs snapshot help From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: nightrecon@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 19:00:38 -0000 On Thu, April 23, 2015 1:37 pm, Michael Powell wrote: > jungle Boogie wrote: > > [snip] >> >> >> You're correct. New installs of FreeBSD don't seem to setup separate >> partitions. Did they ever? >> > [snip] > > Huh? The default 'auto guided default' of installing everything into a > single / partition is only a fairly recent occurrence. The manual approach > for those who know how to slice and partition is still viable, even to > include the choice of GPT or ancient Dos-friendly Mbr. Historically > separate > partitions were the norm back in the day. > I have noticed that too. And this looks to me like one more "Linuxism" crept in into FreeBSD. In the past even those of us who came to Unix trough Linux were following rule of thumb of keeping different sorts of things on different partitions (or drives). Thus restricting the ability of "one sort of thing" to screw up everything for "another sort of thing". Such as: /tmp (user writable, thus should be kept separate to avoid filling up / and other system related area or just running fs our of file handlers) /var (the place used for changing things, like logs, - can accidentally do the same harm as in previous case) /usr/local and /opt - to keep locally installed stuff separate from what comes with the system... Once (a while ago) I noticed Linuxes have started in addition to /tmp using /var/tmp, and yet even worse /usr/tmp. What a brain dead decision! It always is regretful when one sees "Linuxisms" creeping in into better systems like FreeBSD ;-( And yes, I know one can use quotas, and yes, I know zfs changes perspectives ultimately... Just my $0.02 Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++