From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Oct 10 20:29:19 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCA4E3C1F3 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.b.rushworth@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x235.google.com (mail-pf0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B4B66B7F7 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.b.rushworth@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x235.google.com with SMTP id x7so8134066pfa.1 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:29:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=reply-to:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=08bsHKnsFPDbmIn6PdneyEz+QVn86nzhQ5ev82wkZME=; b=NUfJVWVYS1YTYp4tMTsUewUXwucfz2onhxYLdsRETW6I+XI5qflauJXO853SewO+aR bzDrKFCUAjvL/HITrBQsYhO55akp36nBoDAPj7MsbxVZ2m3Mf1KMy8fLM5lH7duDxTkK LMYXftNNZCTaTLV2yP9I7si+c4RF3A047lUBJbPs9B366Nr19Xxb3Pnbb9k45B+UUlrA lnAgqif2Yo69dkBG5ZlgVQhLn7TrHFDHGEPTePXDP8B7yY52yCzg5IL+xkwEZbP9I+jx /TmC2XlvPhPAHej+nKY5AO6oDMXh26PPRTe5wKRHW0AMwckvzBDBM6kZyYrrvEsFhX+Y aJIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:to:from:subject:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=08bsHKnsFPDbmIn6PdneyEz+QVn86nzhQ5ev82wkZME=; b=hqN9u/TQ/JmIAbePoyfNI+CcU4AKdy4o+EFaDoNZwTmAuey4xmRtfpaTK+9hlcd+TV FcoMW5NMZ01WzMZz4maJLxr9mPdR1De6jLC8gesdIDjg6BjicSK3uu1WyQMyxeHePo89 /c8gl11KTi7FA8w/Nq3K8pgw2dnw3Kk2cOWy5/6T2FdSC+Zx1I6wbtlN5PWgvw1DLimR p9ejt0hNyXw809YVjhRAojkycbp0c7+7B9yUSFy9v+Zw40L6Y53BKlxeSjFqFHY3Kn2X kNvv3dJV6vPhJSFz/cvlYTAp73uehRmbFGjCWRiwTGKmsEP1wRBu+UNNLCZ877M+AzPc +3lw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUOKgJ2F6SWLlJmzce8+ti6g6vLCqaf+4JOTugsm3VuZS/6fcT4 Yk61eWHype9duasZeaci7GzhTA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QAaij72h5A6+x1365WZBb1cbpoo38TbEUxGu2YzskIbwn8R01E+cYwQXLzi8JplTn/c8axLuA== X-Received: by 10.98.46.69 with SMTP id u66mr14189245pfu.288.1507667358875; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kelvin.mannynkapy.net ([207.102.139.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c16sm23402453pfj.123.2017.10.10.13.29.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: tbr@acm.org To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org From: Tom Rushworth Subject: intro Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:29:17 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:29:19 -0000 Hi All, A few quick words to say where I'm coming from: I'm a long time C programmer, mostly userland, but I have done some kernel work. I was doing Linux USB drivers in the early 2000's, and I tinkered with the NetBSD serial driver way back when serial ports were actually useful. I wrote my first serious C program in the late 1970s. I'm a FreeBSD desktop user, driven out of MacOS by the marketroids, and driven out of Linux by systemd :). I recently purchased a new desktop machine that turns out to have an Intel Iris Pro P6300 (Broadwell GT3e) graphics system. It came with Linux Mint 18.1 Cinnamon, which manages the screen very nicely, so the Linux driver is good enough. I ran into issues with ssh within hours of starting up, and I'm just not interested in digging through yet another (foolish) system administration issue involving systemd to sort it out. I tried FreeBSD 11.1, but the i915 driver there isn't quite up to the job. I've looked at the various FreeBSD i915 websites and discussions, but can't easily sort out where the current focus is. What I'd like from the list is advice on where to start :). I'm willing to test pre-built stuff, or build it myself, or even work on the code, but everything I looked at seemed to have ground to a halt about a year ago. So, where to begin? Regards, -- Tom Rushworth