From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 30 11: 8:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6B51551A for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id UAA10926; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:40:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id UAA01034; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:40:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199903301840.UAA01034@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: another ufs panic.. In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990330083127.007bf2f0@192.168.255.1> from Bob Bishop at "Mar 30, 1999 8:31:27 am" To: rb@gid.co.uk (Bob Bishop) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:40:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Bob Bishop wrote ... > At 17:53 29/03/99 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > Generally speaking, glitches will cause SCSI bus parity errors. Maybe "Generally" that is true... ;-) I'm just playing the devil's advocate a bit here. > > not all glitches, but a high enough percentage that you usually get > > some sort of indication that there is a problem. True. But I've heard stories about PCI bridge chips in combination with specific adapter firmware revs corrupting data. In general, everything in the datapath can cause you grief. With the crappy PC hardware out there (and/or overclocked crappy PC h/w to make it worse) anything is possible. Even without SCSI. > ...always assuming, of course, that you don't have parity checking turned > off in the controller config :-) There is single word to describe that idea: "stupid" Groeten / Cheers, Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl _______________________ Powered by FreeBSD ___ http://www.freebsd.org _____ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message