From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 7 14:22:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539D6152C8 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25826; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <199910072120.RAA25826@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Roasting Newbies In-Reply-To: <199910071346.NAA19666@web1.aps-services.com> from "dave@allunix.com" at "Oct 7, 1999 1:50:28 pm" To: dave@allunix.com Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IMHO, tensions on the FreeBSD lists are running at their greatest level since... oh, I'd say mid-96, when I first subscribed to -questions. If a "FreeBSD newbies info page" will help, then I'm all for it. I don't see what sort of "ramifications" it could have, other than to (perhaps) reduce some of the stress all around. Everybody needs to take a chill pill. Perhaps this will help. If so, everybody wins. If not, the next person with a bright idea can try. As far as products like VMware go: the big market for FreeBSD is on the server end. That's where we've been for years. There's really very little desktop BSD, where VMWare's marketed. Why should a desktop software manufacturer port to a server OS? Besides, as you say, we're fairly close to being able to run VMWare for Linux ourselves. ==ml > Mr. Lucas, > > I think that you should concider the ramifications of posting that > particular how to doc on the web. > > After all why should the FreeBSD community be bothered by people > who are not intelligent enough to make sure that they are posting to > the right thread? > > Do we really care that companies like VMWare have no intention of > porting their commercial software to FreeBSD? After all it is fairly > easy to add that linux kernel to the BTX loader. > > I had the audacity to reply to a recent posting on stable in which I > stated that the disks which were shipped to me from Walnut Creek > were not bootable and that this might be related to the problems with > the iso image. Of course I was promptly flamed. One reader even > accused me of trying to install the alpha port on my i386 box. > > I do appreciate your noble efforts to help the people who, like myself > are not FreeBSD Guru's and could possibly get frustrated by the OS > by pointing them in the right direction instead of flaming them with > the famous but obscure "that is for questions" > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message