From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 25 18:14:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3FB16A4CE for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7843543D1D for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jayobrien@worldnet.att.net) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (dsl093-180-184.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net[66.93.180.184]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with ESMTP id <20041225181434113005otnde> (Authid: jayobrien@att.net); Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:34 +0000 Message-ID: <41CDAE0A.6060208@att.net> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:14:34 -0800 From: Jay O'Brien User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - questions References: <41CC8FFC.2030009@att.net> <20041224221249.GA59227@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20041224221249.GA59227@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:14:36 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:54:04PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: > > >>I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times >>to fetch X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz, each time taking over an hour, >>and when the file failed, it failed showing a checksum mismatch. > > >>I tried it again today, and it was able to fetch the three >>remaining files. SLOW. I have a DSL connection, and usually >>see 1.5MB speeds or more. Two of the files came in at 6kBps, >>one at 26 kBps. This Portupgrade session, including downloading >>the files detailed below, took 3 hours and 38 minutes; 1.5 hours >>was spent just downloading the three files. >> >>>From the script file of the session: >>=> X11R6.8.1-src(#).tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in >>/usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. >>=> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.1/tars/ >> >>files fetched and time for download: >>file size end speed time >>X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz 29MB 6510 Bps 80 min >>X11R6.8.1-src6.tar.gz 3106kB 6298 Bps 8 min >>X11R6.8.1-src2.tar.gz 5672kB 26 kBps 4 min >> >>I have two questions: >> >>-Is this typical to see such slow download speeds > > > Sometimes; it's not unusual for a popular ftp site to be heavily > loaded. There are various variables you can set to control fetching > from different sites; see the ports(7) manpage and the comments in > bsd.port.mk. > Wow. And after I decode that somehow I have to know an alternate site. It appeared to me that as it was fetching from x.org (see above) that the ftp site was not something I could change. 6500 Bps is much slower than an ancient dialup connection; a big waste of time, it appeared, as I am not using X at all. > >>and for the >> portupgrade process to take so much time? > > > X is a large set of applications, so it's going to take a little while > to compile it all :-) > > >>-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? > > > I don't understand what you're asking here. In my install of FreeBSD I did not select any flavor of X at all, and I would like to learn why it was installed "by default". > > Kris Thanks for your answer, it has pointed me at more things I didn't know were there that I have to learn about. Jay