From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 28 19:28:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B42437B54D for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:28:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14730; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:22:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:22:16 -0500 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Jay Nelson Cc: cjclark@home.com, Brad Knowles , Mark Ovens , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guns and freedom [Was: Re: On "intelligent people" and "dangers to BSD"] Message-ID: <20000328222216.A14473@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: <20000327223602.B11538@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from noslenj@swbell.net on Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 06:22:46PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 06:22:46PM -0600, Jay Nelson wrote: [snip] > >Shooting yourself or someone else unintentionally is almost always > >stupid, but it's still an accident. I don't understand how you are > >saying this is more complicated. It's simple. People, everyone, you, > >me, and everyone reading this, make mistakes. If you want to classify > >them all as stupid, OK, but we all do it. And when one makes a mistake > >with a deadly weapon, which is going to happen at a certain rate > >because people do screw up, the stakes are just that much > >higher. Where's the complexity? > > With that attitude, you wouldn't last 30 seconds in the shooting > crowd. That attitude is not tolerated. It sure seems it is to me, and I have been around and in that crowd. You never ever point a gun at someone, even if it is not loaded because unloaded guns have this odd tendency to go off once in a while. The attitude I was taught when handling guns is always take precautions that assume you or someone else _has_ accidently left the gun loaded or otherwise made a mistake. I mean, is that not Rule Number One? Treat any gun like it were loaded even if you "know" its not? One assumes there will be small mistakes, but the correct way to handle a weapon prevents those small mistakes from compounding. Now, believing that you will not make mistakes because it is just unacceptable, _that_ spells trouble. And I have a headache. Thread done at this end. Oh, one thing about the Selective Service remark in one mail. I do remember I'm registered there and would have recently been reminded. Can you believe the Feds made me dig back and actually find my number in my records for a background check? -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message