From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 20 4:50:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shark.harmonic.co.il (jupiter.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D055237B479; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roman@localhost) by shark.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16130; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:50:50 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:50:49 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dangerously Dedicated In-Reply-To: <200011192231.eAJMVIF09854@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Using what I consider to be a artifact of another operating system on a > > > > machine that doesn't use that OS seems silly to me. Unless, of course, > > > > that artifact has some useful feature(s) or functionality. If it does, I'm > > > > all ears. > > > > > > What "you consider" doesn't have much bearing on the situation. As for > > > useful functionality, this has been done to death. It should be enough > > > for you to accept that the platform requires it > > > > Except that it doesn't, as 'dangerously dedicated' mode shows. > > "DD" mode has never worked properly. Ever since it's been in existence, > it's show that a valid slice table is necessary. > > > >, and that a goodly slice > > > of platform-compliant firmware and software will fail in undesirable ways > > > if it's not present. All of which has been explained in excruciating > > > detail before. > > > > Except that the software hasn't always required it previously, and it > > previously did not fail. > > It has, and it previously did fail. > > > Some would call this 'regression', but I suppose others will call it > > 'progress'. > > Some would just call it "making stuff work", which is the whole point of > the exercise. This is a really long thread indeed. Could someone sum it up, and say why the current way isn't good? The sysinstall asks and warns about the "DD" mode, isn't that sufficient? --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message