From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 30 04:43:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A155AE2772 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EBAD1A0F for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:43:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Recommended laptop for FreeBSD 10.2 Xfce workstation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <56FB5230.2070703@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <56FB5951.90105@holgerdanske.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:42:57 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:43:15 -0000 On 03/29/2016 09:35 PM, Felix Friedlander wrote: > >> On 30 Mar 2016, at 15:12, David Christensen wrote: >> >> freebsd-questions: >> >> Thank you for the replies so far. :-) >> >> >> Is there such a thing as a "reference laptop" that FreeBSD is developed and validated against? > > No. At least, not that I’ve ever heard of. > > Alternative answer: whatever the developers happen to be using at the time :-) Okay. > >> Failing that, I'm going to lower the bar and ask if there are *any* laptops that meet my basic needs OOTB: >> >> I'm looking for a new or used laptop that is known to work >> correctly with FreeBSD 10.2, Xfce, Firefox, Thunderbird, (whatever >> free) Office, etc., plus encryption and virtualisation. > > > I think what might be helpful would be a list of what *not* to buy. Here’s what I’ve found: > > * Broadcom wireless cards are a no-go. (Broadcom Ethernet is fine though.) > * Stay away from Skylake at the moment if you want maximal hardware support. Most issues will probably be fixed over time, but right now it’s not quite perfect. Okay. > * Several laptops have EFI implementations known to cause problems - look before you buy. Look where? > > Other than this, FreeBSD has played fairly OK with most laptop hardware I’ve tried. FreeBSD 10.2? What makes and models of laptops? Did it work OOTB, or did you need to mess with it? > > Anyone want to add to this? > David