From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 26 07:50:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE17C3CC9FD for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Bbygp6vvjz4pW8 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.223.163.154]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MOzKk-1jynVh09LY-00PK3H; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:49:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:49:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Doug Denault Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diff is a little diff -- erent Message-Id: <20200826094948.333c67b0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:60SMUyxEub7P4BtEjETEG5JZUVZ0HCeiJYyadZsYq+Y9csrQrL5 y65sQLKrTBq+l0KpFBcDuvsS5Qmwh3kPf76ofPbgyxBXFScZLoX20UGN1FjrzmPGS5SiCvm Ijyd+DTx0KbXG4efRvYZSWcKjgW+CjHqFJFoSpKUuTAw6iVXOdFg6ki4DRdubsiWg0tBAOF e9Xdpx8DQtdNSmFQ2yO4Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:tH9tSzfsqQo=:7PSfc9I8ybsURB5zCAiukO aY+k0mQSeidSq8UT3cwIkPyITABx4JpI+V/gDSMxu82kmoImlF/b4EMbMrOC+fwhwo3xpcDuF ZmetMvRvrAKUm1zChdBSI4+gCn21VT4rmqWoJKsIgYtXG81aG1YkfHm7EBL6rHOu10C2viKgr aBAgiVdYV+kPJpgVsjaVIVoq4tMEUUq5OzIYy/Ncb9waO8K5j+Yv9Klz/9NgY1F5KU6rewnqI 5aclekutcVg09sr4xkJOVhsMUs0l7AGJ+KZH1KllbRdZRGVd74Rqvc5TkbacyrfVzQc4FXJ7w cFGy/HmOHXoC73wpiIlN9uLj+pKIgKQtUpOJtCE233bR09SCYgyqC+l4Sqohj3E5WNVor1kf2 5LwzUYdVs5tX8wNMSSJfjf5nmFKJUh7z/3qfDEBIEiECBenzQ3lcGzoM/2nIWsk9g25XR61Mz wCysxeTnluPHns1mFL1U6EE4KQwQxD5WPPk7Q0ko9ABJIVGtIgsIEZcdbOok6ZqQv8NUitnuj 0sKwjYYaf1RfLkuEQ+bG0NYRilyFkJ+XTUd5afsl1QJzU4zviXQZToWzmLbKKJt75+kNZ3Qza i8flyA3dj1jgMkGXDe5Bs6VO+UCr53/8WHi2hEoUSfql5ojIvxIrzs480gE9hUCQkEkC6U42x Tt4aGpaeyfP9rbFtLRrizcvrz0bEVVbUdN50irj/qCD+Gy76bVU5RlnUPLcF+sjsBIYpge+Vw DGRwW4HzjOOex28g/LQoXDSJvCa1DCOqaa/weXc3YIcfFt44dVgUtpSMWJeQwQDiMsec7lo+5 Dga5QvEk1EU7pbx62iVGHBuPeyDgj3/5YmDhv8j241v/y3rq2fE08MZk6rIvZMd2/nsMWOL X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Bbygp6vvjz4pW8 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.13) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.72 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.32)[-0.324]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[94.223.163.154:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.77)[0.767]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.88)[0.880]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.17.13:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.17.13:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 07:50:00 -0000 On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 01:30:38 -0400 (EDT), Doug Denault wrote: > I do wonder why. Who is going to go to the effort to build/install "base" > commands as various options are removed/changed? I can't wait to see what > happens to cp, grep, find, and awk. If I remember correctly, grep already is BSD grep (with GNU grep being available via ports collection), and the same for awk (and gawk respectively). In most cases, the base commands implement the set of standard features, while the GNU commands have certain GNU extensions added which the standard does not require or even specify. This, and the licensing terms (BDSL / GPL) that apply. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...