Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:05:07 -0400 From: "Person, Roderick" <personrp@ccbh.com> To: "'xavian@professional3d.com'" <xavian@professional3d.com>, "Person, Roderick" <personrp@ccbh.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: installing freebsd in an existing linux environment Message-ID: <ABC15E2D8FBCD311B4A200805FA7D59B02604006@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu>
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It think it would be easier for you if you FORGET LINUX. Investigate pkg_add
and /stand/sysinstall. These two ways of installing FreeBSD packages are
equililent to rpm. As I said I don't use rpm, thanks for linux packages and
and I have no need for them since FreeBSD has almost all the packages as
linux. The one linux apps I run are WordPerfect and StarOffice everything
else is FreeBSD (Netscape, windowmaker, xv, midnight commander etc).
I think your trying to keep linux app when you mostly won't need too.
What specifically are you worried about running on FreeBSD?
Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
(412)454-2616
personrp@ccbh.com
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research,
would it?"
Albert Einstein
-----Original Message-----
From: xavian anderson macpherson [mailto:professional3d@home.com]
Sent: October 02, 2000 2:49 PM
To: Person, Roderick; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: installing freebsd in an existing linux environment
Importance: High
"Person, Roderick" wrote:
what all is required in compiling a linux sourcce to be a freebsd port? You
will need to get the linux source code and attempt to compile it under
FreeBSD, there are some differences in the C code and such, I haven't had
much spare time to actually complete this for ports that require lots of
changes. So code does[DID YOU MEAN `NOT'] compile cleanly though.
all i want to know is how do i get to compile the most recent copy of
the rpm source [which is rpm-4.0.?], and run it in freebsd. rpm has the
ability to build rpm packages from tarballs. that is one of it's fantastic
features. so if the freebsd people were to port the rpm package manager
over to this system, it would greatly simplify the addition and removal of
those packages (as everything is done all at once). if freebsd had a
version of rpm that was directly ported to (support) freebsd, rpm would then
create new freebsd rpms (from tarballs) dedicated to freebsd.
I think what you really want to know is if you have an app for Linux. how
do you get it to run on FreeBSD? Let take an example. You use Gnome. so lets
say you want to use the PAN newsreader for Gnome (although there is a
FreeBSD port of this, you want to use the linux version). You would get the
linux rpm or tgz of pan. If you use rpms you'll need to ask someone else or
read the book. I have found no reason to use them and don't know the proper
way to use them. But for a tgz package you would open it and place the
binary file in/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin - this is assuming you want it
there, it's a bin and you need X, so why not?you will need to make sure that
the proper libs are installed. When you install FreeBSD, install the
linux-base package. This installs a base Red Hat 6.1 system(libs and such)
into /compat/linux. Once you have everthing installed your ready to rock.now
if you start you system with Linux compatbility then just start the app.
i.e. /compat/linux/usrX11R6/bin/panIf you don't start you system in Linux
compat mode just type linux at the command prompt. It will then start linux
compat mode or tell you linux compatablilty is enabled.Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
personrp@ccbh.com
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research,
would it?"
Albert Einstein
-----Original Message-----
From: xavian anderson macpherson [ mailto:professional3d@home.com
<mailto:professional3d@home.com> ]
Sent: October 02, 2000 12:18 PM
To: Person, Roderick
Subject: Re: installing freebsd in an existing linux environment
Importance: High
hot rod,
sorry, i couldn't resist. hey guy how's it going. i really appreciate your
responses. hope to keep in touch on a regular basis. last night i actually
saw that freebsd can use rpm-2.5.6. what all is required in compiling a
linux sourcce to be a freebsd port? i just put your number into my
cellphone. since i have free national calling (in the 48), i'll probably
give you a buzz. until then, THANKS!
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have no=20
need for them since FreeBSD has almost all the packages as linux. The =
one linux=20
apps I run are WordPerfect and StarOffice everything else is FreeBSD =
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<P><I><FONT face=3DBlackAdderII size=3D5>Roderick P. Person</FONT></I> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>Programmer II</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
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Administrator</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
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face=3DArial size=3D2>personrp@ccbh.com</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"If we knew what it was we were doing, =
it would not=20
be called research, would it?"</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nb=
sp; &nb=
sp; &nb=
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Albert Einstein</FONT> </P>
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macpherson=20
[mailto:professional3d@home.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> October 02, 2000 =
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freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: installing =
freebsd in an=20
existing linux environment<BR><B>Importance:</B>=20
High<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>"Person, Roderick" wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"> <FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
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size=3D-1>what all is required in compiling a linux sourcce to be a =
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port?</FONT></FONT></FONT> <SPAN =
class=3D840060017-02102000><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1>You will need to =
get the linux=20
source code and attempt to compile it under FreeBSD, there are some =
differences in the C code and such, I haven't had much spare time =
to=20
actually complete this for ports that require lots of changes. So =
code=20
does</FONT></FONT><FONT color=3D#330000>[DID YOU MEAN =
`NOT']</FONT><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1> compile cleanly=20
though.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> <BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1> =
</FONT></FONT><B><FONT=20
color=3D#330000>all i want to know is how do i get to compile the =
most recent=20
copy of the rpm source [which is rpm-4.0.?], and run it in =
freebsd. =20
rpm has the ability to build rpm packages from tarballs. that =
is one=20
of it's fantastic features. so if the freebsd people were to =
port the=20
rpm package manager over to this system, it would greatly simplify =
the=20
addition and removal of those packages (as everything is done all =
at=20
once). if freebsd had a version of rpm that was directly =
ported to=20
(support) freebsd, rpm would then create new freebsd rpms (from =
tarballs)=20
dedicated to freebsd.</FONT></B></FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1></FONT></FONT></FONT> <SPAN=20
class=3D840060017-02102000></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D840060017-02102000><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1>I think what you =
really want to=20
know is if you have an app for Linux. how do you get it to run on =
FreeBSD?=20
Let take an example. You use Gnome. so lets say you want to use the =
PAN=20
newsreader for Gnome (although there is a FreeBSD port of this, you =
want to=20
use the linux version). You would get the linux rpm or tgz of pan. =
If you=20
use rpms you'll need to ask someone else or read the book. I have =
found no=20
reason to use them and don't know the proper way to use them. But =
for a tgz=20
package you would open it and place the binary file=20
in</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D840060017-02102000></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D840060017-02102000><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D-1>/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin - this is assuming you =
want it=20
there, it's a bin and you need X, so why=20
not?</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D840060017-02102000><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D-1>you will need to =
make sure that=20
the proper libs are installed. When you install FreeBSD, install =
the=20
linux-base package. This installs a base Red Hat 6.1 system(libs =
and such)=20
into /compat/linux. Once you have everthing installed your ready to =
rock.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D840060017-02102000></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D840060017-02102000><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D-1>now if you start you system with Linux compatbility then =
just start=20
the app. i.e.=20
/compat/linux/usrX11R6/bin/pan</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D840060017-02102000><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D-1>If you don't start you system in Linux compat mode just =
type linux=20
at the command prompt. It will then start linux compat mode or tell =
you=20
linux compatablilty is enabled.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><I><FONT =
face=3DBlackAdderII><FONT size=3D+2>Roderick P. =
Person</FONT></FONT></I>=20
<BR><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Programmer II</FONT></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>Crystal Administrator</FONT></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>personrp@ccbh.com</FONT></FONT>=20
<P><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>"If we knew what it was we =
were doing, it=20
would not be called research, would it?"</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT=20
=
size=3D-1> &n=
bsp; &n=
bsp; &n=
bsp; =20
Albert Einstein</FONT></FONT> =20
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><FONT=20
size=3D-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D-1><B>From:</B> xavian =
anderson=20
macpherson [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:professional3d@home.com">mailto:professional3d@home.com</=
A>]</FONT></FONT>=20
<BR><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D-1><B>Sent:</B> =
October 02,=20
2000 12:18 PM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><FONT=20
size=3D-1><B>To:</B> Person, Roderick</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D-1><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
installing=20
freebsd in an existing linux environment</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><FONT size=3D-1><B>Importance:</B> =
High</FONT></FONT>=20
<BR> </DIV><B><FONT size=3D+1>hot rod,</FONT></B>=20
<P><B><FONT size=3D+1>sorry, i couldn't resist. hey guy =
how's it=20
going. i really appreciate your responses. hope to =
keep in=20
touch on a regular basis. last night i actually saw that =
freebsd can=20
use rpm-2.5.6. what all is required in compiling a linux =
sourcce to=20
be a freebsd port? i just put your number into my =
cellphone. =20
since i have free national calling (in the 48), i'll probably =
give you a=20
buzz. until then, </FONT><FONT=20
=
size=3D+2>THANKS!</FONT></B></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><=
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