From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 19:04:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AEA16A4CE for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1634D43D5C for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B72B2513CE; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:04:06 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Len Zettel Message-ID: <20050114190406.GA22978@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200501141305.40257.zettel@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501141305.40257.zettel@acm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:04:08 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:05:40PM +0000, Len Zettel wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 05:56 pm, Freebsd0101@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/13/05 11:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr writes: > > BS> Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies > > BS> that need support for the latest hardware. > > > > >It's not a question of latest, it's a question of which hardware. > > >FreeBSD, like all operating systems, targets a broad but not universal > > >user base, and so the mix of hardware that it supports doesn't cover > > >every conceivable device, although it will naturally overlap for the > > >most part with any other OS. > > >For example, given the predominance of FreeBSD as a heavy-duty server > > > > ------ > > You clearly haven't been paying attention.... > > > > The entire point of this extended discussion, for those who have paid > > attention, is that FreeBSD 4.x, which is admittedly the fastest version > > available, DOES NOT work with intel's fastest CPUs because it doesnt > > support the necessary chipsets, AND, that freebsd "people" would > > rather ridicule people that ask why than fix things. > > > > So your claim that its a "heavy-duty server" platform is tainted by the > > fact that in order to use the fastest server Mobos, you have to use the > > slower, > > still-under-development 5.x. Which seems counterproductive for an O/S > > that is trying to establish itself as a choice as a server platform. >=20 > Not necessarily. The interesting question hasn't been addressed yet. > Is 5.3 on its fastest supported chipset faster or slower than 4.10 on > its fastest supported chipset? I would be willing to guess that it is. > Then the whole thing gets down to a difference of opinion about > development priorities in the face of limited resources. > Better to expend resources on making 5.3 faster than 4.10 on all > chipsets or retrofit 4.10 to the new ones? Mr AOL Troll also likes to ignore emails refuting his chosen world-view (e.g. earlier emails on the topic he's trolling about above), so he should just be ignored since meaningful discourse isn't possible. It's too bad he's now choosing to be even more antisocial by changing his email address to avoid the procmail filters of those for whom his rantings have lost their amusement, although this just makes his behaviour more obvious to other bystanders. Kris --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6BemWry0BWjoQKURAvB8AKCyWbtI3E2km/jHoBZx2kIaEIILbQCg5cJH YYgXAF8WvzowAEV+GPyMgP8= =M/yY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf--